Broken extractor: This issue is pretty common with a PPQ. Sorry to throw water on the above comments, but I purchased my PPQ 22LR 4 yesterday, cleaned it (watched the video to be sure I did it right) then took it to the range. Dude, its 10 years old with 30,000 rounds. Ive got ~2500 rounds through my M1 at this point. 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If that were the case then my Neos wouldnt work, and neither would the Glock conversions. No feeding or extraction problems at all . What a target like that doesnt say is how easy a gun is to shoot accurately when youre out on the range. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. WRanger is top SD and LEO ammo and I'd be suprised if that was the issue but until you try other ammo it will be speculation. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Did I read that new Walther PPQ M2s are having issues? I have a 5 PPQ 22 on order, and very much look forward to trying it out. 5. Dont know if we would upgrade to a S&W or Walter in 9mm later. The next 80-90 had numerous FTE (fail to eject), around 20 or so, using Federal 1200 or 1240 FPS 40 grain LRN. No offense but are you kidding? Failure to eject is another problem you might face with your Walther PPQ pistol. It is a perfectly fine mechanism. In 1929, Walther released the inventive PP in .32 ACP and a year later the even more concealable PPK, which we should all know as the signature weapon of James Bond, 007. I have heard of a few guys who have over 40,000 rounds . In all my shooting life, I dont think Ive ever come across a pistol that would be as hard to speak ill of as the Walther PPQ. Disassembly of the PPQ is straightforward and easy to get used to. The Walther PPQ gives accuracy. Over the years, Ive shot a very wide variety of semi-autos in all calibers and sizes, and have never once had an inadvertent double tap. I check into the Walther forum daily and have not read about any reliability issues with the 9MM PPQ M2 4 inch barrel. These guns are tack drivers. No pot metal. The 45AUTO version has had reported issues with the material quality of their barrels. Im torn between one or the other for a first time gun user (my wife). Plus Ive got more NEW people into shooting 22s with a can than anything else. Is the PPQ perfect? The other is that the actual notch on the slide stop goes up into the slide. Feels like a pretty standard 5-6.5lbs. Quick Reply to: My first 10 shots were great and close to center. Walther has a great warranty. Therefore this is a left-of-center pistol. In .22 LR? It will go nicely with my laser engraved Spectre take-down pins, Totally agree. I suppose that means if I were starting over and choosing one of the three available models, Id go with the normal 4 or 5 and supply my own thread adapter. Keeping it internal maintains the same external appearance of the pistol. Well, I thought this was going to be a good battle, turns out the 2nd Walther PPQ started doing the exact same thing as the 1st one did. The whole reason people choose 9mm over 45acp is because you can get more hits on target faster with less training. The Tenifer finish is as tough as nails. Broken extractor: This problem also happens if your pistol has a damaged extractor. Luckily he was following range rules and had it pointed downrange. I only encounter this when I'm running it with a big suppressor. Their representative Conner in customer service, refused to have it returned for Walther to fix the firearm. If you have any issues, maybe not so good. Underpowered ammunition: The cartridge does not reach back to the ejector when the ammunition is underpowered. IIRC we did notice markings on the rim of the case to suggest this. Wrong magazine: Having a wrong magazine can also cause failure to feed. Uses same mags as PPQ M2, PPQ Q4/Q5/SF. not me, ever since my p22 frame cracked and walther claimed it was outside its lifespan (10yrs old, prob 30k rounds, but i didnt tell them round count) i choose not to buy pot metal guns, or support walther for bunk biz practices. Clean and lubricate your gun to solve the issue. decent sights, or replaceable ones. Why this happens is mentioned below. The size of the bump along the back of the grip made me think it wasnt going to fit my hand very well. I was shooting Winchester Ranger ammunition .40 S&W 165 grain. Oddly Aguila pistol match (925 fps) and RWS pistol target (also ~900fps) also did cycle well, though I only tried one box of each due to cost. This target is from 15 yards with the butt of the pistol rested on the shooting bench at my local indoor range. Finally. Now, after lots of dry-fire practice and about 5000 rounds at the range, I better understand why its called Quick Defense Trigger. But there is an inaccuracy in this review. Interested in getting a handgun? I had a new Steyer start behaving oddly at the range. This video covers everything you need to know to problem solve and maintain your Walther PPQ. .40 being stupid expensive to be all test this test that with. 4. On the other hand: I did try the PPQ M2 in 9mm, and it be sweeeeeet. Walther PPQ 2,550 Round Review . Exactly. There arent many pistols that feel better in the hand than the PPQ. Simply pop the pin out with an Allen wrench or a screwdriver and the backstrap will pull right off. If this Tactical version came with tall suppressor sights Id feel differently, but it doesnt so I dont. Yes, I dont like that you need to pull the trigger to remove the slide, but there is no decocker. These are built by Walther, not Umarex. I got an SR-22, which is great, no doubt, but just a little small for my mitts. KY Gun Co has had em in stock: http://www.kygunco.com/walther-ppq-m2-22lr-12rd-magazine-73229. They all grouped much tighter with it. I cant imagine someone regretting having purchased a PPQ with the mag release of their choice. There are only a couple of light scratches on the slide and no sign of rusting or corrosion anywhere at all. Exact same texture, same size and feel as just guestimating here approximately the M backstrap of the centerfire (unfortunately I dont have a PPQ to try and measure to be sure here, but Walther states the grip circumference as 5.3). Each time I had several unintentional double-taps. Plastic front sight so I guess it just got hung up on something and pulled out. The magazine capacity is 9+1 and 13+1. I bought the PPQ .22 M2 in 5. So if you like the PPQ except for the trigger check it out. PPQ-M2 9mm stock is ready to go. Pulling the trigger is not a big deal. Replace the ammunition to fix this issue. Width:1.3 Additional magazines run about $24. Apparently the Walther web site is incorrect. Home of the handguns. The three finger grooves on the grip also contribute to the excellent ergonomics. In addition, the slides design is made to drain the water from the striker channel, making it practical for Maritime operations. I sent the pistol back, they fixed it. .22 pistols are known for being finicky. The latest generation is now called the P22 Q and comes in a bunch of colors and variants. Were having some trouble with ours cycling/ejecting. To say one is better than the other is just going to come down to what you like personally. I called Walther and they said my gun is well past its intended life span. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! To give you an idea of how well the Tenifer finish held up, this past summer and fall I packed the PPQ as my carry sidearm on everything from rough motorcycle/ATV trips in heavy dust to elk and deer hunting in torrential downpours up in Idahos wind chilly mountains. My wifes carry is the Walther PK380 with a similar grip and my Ruger SR22 is also patterned after the Walther P22 grip. You actually reminded me I should probably get it looked at and fixed. if they make this pistoly that would take my many Glock17 magsId buy two . True. Sight Radius: 6.4 inches. Criteria and Considerations for Reviewing the Walther PPQ M2 4-inch 9mm. I just bought a PPQ M1. Dirtiness-sensitive. The front and rear flat-bottom slide serrations allow for a secure hold when pulling back the slide. So youve only fired a Glock and maybe a revolver or DAO semi-auto? First off its bit picky with the ammo, which I can deal with, but is there any ammo, especially hollowpoints yall find to work well? That being said, shooting the PPQ is a blast! First off, have you tried different ammo? Any chance this would work with a walther PPQ 43 cal paintball pistol, guys? Until I see shelves consistently stocked full of bricks, I wouldnt consider buying another .22. i had a 20 year old mk2 10 bull that was rusty, and the frame to reciever fit was sloppy, and they fixed it (repalced lower?) Replace the locking block to fix it. Is this gun a bit sensitive to that? Do the research. Not sure what they are talking about, or they are overly picky. If I can get a chance to shoot a PPQ I just may replace my G19. Last winter, after 12 years of shooting this gun, the slide broke in two. The M1 is the German original and I got used to it over night! Only thing done is to experiment with different recoil springs. I can proudly say I own both the P99 AS in 9mm and a PPQ M2 in .40 and i find both guns to be almost on par with one another. PPQ problems. So far, the PPQ has yet to suffer a single jam or malfunction. During Media Day at SHOT Show 2013, I had the distinct pleasure of shooting a couple of handguns from Walther the new M2 version of the 'top-of-the-line' striker-fired PPQ, and the hammer-fired PPX 'entry-level' pistol. so get this amazing Feel The Beat Hoodie Moreover, it has a hoodie-style collar with a pullover front closure and rib knitted cuffs to hold your wrist. Three backstraps accommodate different shooters as well. PPQ M1 .40. As mentioned before, it would be sweet if the Tactical version shipped with taller sights to clear a suppressor, but theyre the same sights as on the standard 4 model. Having some problems with my Walther PPQ m2 jamming. One question to Jeremy please: Did you ever try .22 subsonic ammo and did it work without problems? Sure enough, my left thumb can release the slide just as effortlessly as my right. But, on the other hand, I shot mine for years before this ever started to happen. That seems to help but I think its anecdotal if not imaginary. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Fit and finish are beautiful as well, this is a really nice firearm when you inspect it, unlike the colt and sig 1911 22s. 1 more mm and it is sticking out of frame to the right. One of the reasons I love my CZ Kadet Adapter .22 LR upper conversion for my SP-01 is that it allows me to shoot .22 LR with the same grip, controls, and trigger as my go-to pistol, and the PPQ .22 can also provide this kind of experience for centerfire PPQ owners. Haven't had any of these issues with mine. Almost everyone that Ive heard complain about not being able to use the paddle style releases indicate that they cannot reach it well with their thumb. If there is a bullet inside of it, then disassemble the pistol to clear it. That doesnt explain GLOCK conversion kits running, though. One observation I found the medium grip felt the best in my hand, however, I only got acceptable target hits with it I switched to the larger palm swell it did not feel as comfortable as the medium ones but it became a tack driver! Let me put it this wayafter six months of owning, carrying and shooting this pistol, I can safely state that the Walther PPQ M2 is everything the P99 isand then a whole lot more. Integrated Hex Tool in the Removable Backstrap. The better texturing on the M2 doesn't matter to me as I put a Talon on it anyway. It was all over. Evaluate and correct it. Trigger - Score: 9. Then youre capable of safely stripping this gun apart. Plus, the build quality inspires a higher level of confidence than the zinc alloy, farmed-out-to-a-BB-gun-factory norm. Best line out of any gun review Ive ever read: if youre bored you can also mount any AR-15 or other 1/228 muzzle device, Ive solicited like 15 to 18 muzzle devices from various companies to do a shootout review, which will be coming probably at the end of the month here. I have one of these and the 22LR version. Below are the probable causes of failure to fire and their suitable solutions. [Well, as long as primers are well seated!] It would put it self on safety when fired a few times. Actually, Joe is still enjoying it since he couldnt bring himself to return the loaner and decided, instead, to purchase it. Im not going to name names but I dont, havent, and wont own basically any of the .22 LR pistols on the market that look like centerfire guns and function whereby the entire slide reciprocates. The grip shape and dimensions will work really well for a huge range of hand sizes, and its every bit as comfortable and awesome as the real PPQ. My buddy who joined me on the range one day actually hit the target quite a bit with it, which is quite the anomaly. Again, the solution is to replace the whole assembly. I had a P22 but after a yr or so moved to the Sig Mosquito. And accept this, that without the pull-the-trigger trick wed never have had the Miami DEA agent Im the only one in the room professional enough to blow my foot off video. so get this amazing Feel The Beat Hoodie Moreover, it has a hoodie-style collar with a pullover front closure and rib knitted cuffs to hold your wrist. Also, once it is bent, you can not straighten it back. To me the P99 AS might be the best 9mm pistol ever made. I recently purchased a Walther CCP M2, primarily due to the touted recoil reduction of the gas delayed action as well as the nice grip and stainless slide. Below is the probable cause of this problem and its solution. There are tons of options in .22 WMR (winchester magnum rimfire aka .22 Mag) for legitimately jacketed, not plated, bullets. Overall: * * * * * One question: Weak recoil spring: You can also have this issue if your gun has a weak recoil spring. I smiled when I saw that, as it will prevent the steel slide stop from wearing away at and rounding out the notch. Really how hard is it to remove the magazine, confirm the chamber is empty (visually and tactically), and point in a safe direction and pull the trigger? Like I mentioned earlier, with the trigger being so smooth, I can deliver faster follow up shots accurately. If your a DA/SA kind of guy and want a gun you can carry one in the chamber and then use a decocker to switch trigger to DA for safer carry than the P99 is going to be the pistol for you, but if you have cut your teeth on nothing but traditional striker fired pistols than the PPQ will be more up your ally. Something better than the crappy sig mosquito. I wish they kept the old paddle release, I love that thing. Walther CCP M2 Serrated Trigger and Trigger Guard Checkering 3. Mentioned below are its causes and solutions. Archived. The solution is to install a new magazine release spring and bumper. If they have the same problems I'd contact Walther and send it in. It was my go to target gun and I was shooting 3 or 4 times a week. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Im not registering my finger. The button is not ambidextrous but can be swapped quite quickly from one side to the other for right- or left-handed use. Got rid of it and replaced with a Ruger SR22. I see that as getting use to the trigger. Project Appleseed: Learn Marksmanship, History and a Little More. The simple fix to this problem is to clean the barrel, the chamber, and the pistol. This by the way, is where the PPQ meets its major roadblock. 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