And yet you complain that the divorced and remarried may receive Communion despite their objectively grave sins. I heard he was mad about some of them[.] [5], Shortly thereafter, in 2006, he and his wife converted to Catholicism. He judges the Supreme Pontiff to be guilty of teaching heresy on multiple serious points of doctrine. Along with the Muslims, we are the descendants of the same Father, Abraham: why does God allow many religions? To fulfill the positive precepts required of Catholics, we must submit our minds and hearts to the teachings of the Magisterium, including non-infallible teachings of the Pope. Its intolerable, Its a boring, inconsequential, fruitless debate. Lets take this offline and chat by phone later, yes? A bunch of the mob on here defend your position, but say they choose FSSP over SSPX every time, THIS is the real issue. (2:00 PM), Yes theres a new theology that needs to be rejected. PS: this isnt a big deal. Check out some of the. Your over-the-top language overshadows any legitimate criticism you may have. So Taylor Marshall is publicly accusing Pope Francis of teaching multiple heresies. Its not the first time. It is not that God wishes many persons to be in religions which lack the fullness of truth. Hes been ignoring me nearly 100% since almost immediately after he said he wouldnt do another year of TNT. but for all negative comments about them. Dr. Marshall has a large community of followers on his regular podcast shows, in which he discusses, together with his colleague Timothy Gordon, the new developments and happenings in the Catholic . Until a few months ago, Taylor Marshall and Tim Gordon were friends and cohosts of the TM podcast, for God's sake. He made it sound like he called back, Steve. In Infiltration Taylor Marshall sets out to explain the current situation in the Church by making the case for an infiltration of the Church by her enemies. Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon are one of the funniest Catholic guys on Youtube. (9:16 PM), Also for the record, Ive never been certain why Taylor opted for non-renewal during the peak of TNT popularity. And JP2 was FAR more modernist than he acknowledges, but the point is that Daves tweet to Taylor was 100.0000% civil. . That was the emotionally charged testimony of a 26-year-old woman, in the jury trial of 34-year-old Timothy J. Gordon, who is charged with two felony counts of aggravated sexual abuse, for two. Thats why. Thats heteropraxy, not heterodoxy. Discussion in 'Coffee House' started by torrentum, Apr 16, 2020. I just dont want this dragging out in public. But right here, thats a judgment and accusation against the Pope of teaching material heresy. It is also a schismatic statement, since no one submits their minds and hearts to a Pope whom they think has said heretical things. Take it up with them. I know so many people here in town who have been touched by him and drawn to Tradition. They are expressions of imagination and wishful thinking. I dont care about the business model. (9:46 PM), No worries at all. Wherever it leads. Marshall: Honestly, Tim, I think Ive said this before, this statement bothers me more, I think its more heretical, more grievous than anything in Amoris Laetitia. I resist him to his face.. Moreover, since we are not in full communion with SSPX, receiving the Eucharist with them is a performed falsehood. Interesting timing all around, that folks would start putting up this pro SSPX content just before Voris's story. The book has been controversial in Catholic circles, drawing both positive and negative reviews from various media outlets. The Spirit also works with unbelievers, such as atheists and agnostics, so that they might find salvation by loving their neighbor, and thereby may implicitly know and love God. Please disown that, For my part, I didnt even see the SSPX debate your post caused until late afternoon. A subreddit to help you keep up to date with what's going on with reddit and other stuff. Lets appeal to civility Ironic to have to say, because we produced 100+ really good shows on difficult topics over the course of 15 mos. Lets take this offline, bro. (1) No Pope can teach heresy or grave error. See the pattern there? Im saying that formal adherence to schismatic acts is a grave peril of attending the SSPX. The good part is that its NEVER too late to make up. If youre tired of politically correct mediaspeak, you want to see God back in the public square, and youre not allergic to having a laugh, you will love this podcast. Earlier still, on April 12th, Gordon tweeted: Im not asserting with certainty that SSPX is in a formal schism. "Dr. Taylor Marshall's The Eternal City takes the reader deep into the Catholic origins of the Apostolic Faith." - Bishop James Conley, D.D., S.T.L. Just gotta retry each day for unity. You get the picture. Ill continue to hope.). - Ill speak to ANY of these guys Ive ever crossed swords with. It will not. RoP [. Marshall then objects to the phrase in the Open Letter heretical Pope. I used to watch Dr. Taylor Marshall, a Catholic theologian and blogger, quite a bit and he used to do these podcasts with fellow Catholic theologian Timothy J. Gordon. Sounds a bit petty, but I have noticed there's a lot of division and debate in the Catholic blogosphere regarding the SSPX. Hence, we will see divisions and in-fighting amongst the reactionaries when one makes a move further right, because being a reactionary is all about being ones own pope (the more so, the more influential and famous one becomes within the movement). All of us, me included. Look at what the Church says on the matter: [link] (4-12-20, 9:43 PM), Debating an issue is fragging? (7:15 PM), My brand CANT be damaged by defending the ONE HOLY CHURCH against outsiders who claim my Sunday obligation isnt fulfilled if I attend novus. At the same time, Church Militant/Michael Voris is doing an expose on alleged pedophile coverups in the SSPX. [16] Marshall was noticed by the campaign in return, and retweeted on the president's Twitter account. If anyone can enlighten me, that would be appreciated. But the meaning of the Council inheres in the text, The world of text, hermeneutic, jurisprudence. He used the huge analytics boost his channel got from TNT and then ditched me, presumably cuz Im not Trad enuf for biz expsn. Pope Francis taught the view of conservative theologians that God merely permits a plurality of religions. He does this by examining the history of the conflict between Church and Freemasonry, examining many recent private revelations and prophecies, and tying these to the undeniably unsettling developments within the Church in the last 60 years. (9:16 PM), My sole issue with his Easter tweet was that he retracted his previous due criticisms of the SSPX, which I worried would nudge many of the faithful to attend SSPX liturgy, which would endanger the less-educated in the Faith, since they will more readily succumb to therebellious mindset of the Society towards VC II and towards the Novus Ordo, a mindset that is condemned by the Church. Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon. Yet he also says that no one may judge the Pope. Ronald L. Conte Jr. Not gonna tweet anymore on this, Agreed. Certainly, God gives sufficient grace to everyone to avoid all grave sin and to do His whole will. Gordon: not material heresy. Marshall: I look at this and I say: You are wrong on Luther. Vatican II is a valid ecumenical council,yet it is trashed all the time and regarded as fundamentally less authoritative than Vatican I and (especially) Trent: even though Pope Benedict XVI (the bitterly disappointing former darling: because he resigned), writing in 1985, made it clear that Vatican II and Trent have precisely the same authority. Catholic Doctrine and the Sunday Readings for March 2023, Please Welcome Our Speaker for Tonight Mrs. Friendly reminder that all top level comments must: start with "answer:" (or "question:" if you have an on-topic follow up question to ask). We need a moderate voice, a voice which speaks to the hearts of the faithful, respects authority, and genuinely wants what's best for Catholics, not desiring to be right every time or to shame all . (10:25 AM), A) shes calling names, not me B) my daughter has brain surgery in 90 mins and many of these people want to go to war with good guys like FSSP. (4-14-20, 4:56 PM), I dont think you get it. But not while shots are fired hourly on Twitter and crowds watch on. There are certainly a few factors, as with all etiologies, but I speculate that his evolution regarding SSPX was probably one of them. by Dr Taylor Marshall. This is a contemptible accusation, which reveals Marshall to be, as I expressed it on Twitter, an ignorant fool. 'Jesus Revolution': Talking to Jonathan Roumie, Defense of Vatican II vs. Oliveira Leonardo's Attacks, Tertullian's Eucharistic Theology: Lucas Banzoli vs. J.N.D. Explore the world's faith through different perspectives on religion and spirituality! And since the DOGMA of the First Vatican Council teaches us that no Pope can teach or commit heresy, Marshalls accusation is itself heretical. (11:32 PM). All of us, me included. The point of departure was NOT receiving Communionwhich is licit all things consideredbut the apology for not just inaccurate statements about SSPX (which is great!) I await your reply, Taylor Its sophistical to claim (ever) that its too late for civility. You are wrong on cohabitation. Accusing the Pope of speaking, teaching, or believing heretical things is heresy, as the Pope is protected by the prevenient grace of God from teaching or being a heretic in any way. Im delighted to see the recognition of Marshalls wacko conspiratorial extremism (better late than never). Now lets review the teaching of the Church on the subject of the papal gifts of immunity from error and a never-failing faith. 2 of Daves biggest heroesSheen and Burkeagree with him[.] Its an important intellectual matter and it merits dispassionate debate. Delighted to hear that! 2 or 3 of them. Such was my purpose for my rejoinder. As Faramir says of war: sin makes corpses of us all. Indeed I read last night, on one of Taylor Marshall's latest tweets, that he has blocked Timothy Gordon and also his wife as well I think. (12:11 AM), The attempts to throw Dave under the bus are silly. I said Ive reached out several times in the New Year w/ scarcely a response. Our Ladys Teaching On Prayer: The First of a Lenten Course on Prayer, What Fast Does Lent Require? On 8 September 2021, Shaw wrote on his Twitter page: It is high time that everyone realised that Taylor Marshall has no understanding of any of the issues he talks about. Do not imitate him. For my part in some irreverent jesting in the wake of this spat, Im sorry. The example shown by so many conservative Catholics is gravely immoral. The Novus Ordo is invalid or objectively offensive to God. Another wrong SSPX talking point. You are living in objective sin and leading others into that sin, by your heresy and schism. With so many apologists, all scrambling to act as conference speakers or experts which ones do you trust? Well have to wait and see what side other big shots in the reactionary world (e.g., Many lesser-known Marshall fans & followers, ICKSP (which now runs the parish I attended in Detroit for 25 years), The Tabernacle: Egyptian & Near Eastern Precursors. If it is an apologists opinion, not the teaching of the Church I ask, Do you receive the Sacraments from so and so? Do you go to your apologist when you have a problem in your marriage? Where does so and so receive authority to teach? Hypocrite is the right word here. When they reach the seventh accusation against Pope Francis, Marshall again accuses the Pope of heresy. Basically, the cause of the current quarrel is the status of the SSPX, and whether to receive sacraments from them or attend their services. Can we talk about that? Its quite strange, no? He was acting as a good father. No matter how many conservative Popes follow, if Taylor Marshall does not repent of his sin of rejecting the teachings and authority of Pope Francis, he remains a heretic and a schismatic, who sins anew every time he receives holy Communion. If this separates me from Taylor Marshall and his more deranged fans, so much the better. [26] Traditionalist Catholic writer Matthew Walther criticized both Marshall's advocacy for then-President Trump and his claims against Pope Francis. You are wrong on divorce and remarriage, and absolution and Communion for people living in objective sin. Calling FSSP bootlicking (as many who were supporting your tweet were doing) IS fragging. . They have eight children. They stopped being men and became guys, and now, in tragic numbers, feckless soy boys. I read somewhere that it has something to do with the Society of St. Pius X, a group in an "irregular situation" regarding canonical status due to the founder's excommunication, but I'm not sure how exactly involved they are in the Marshall vs Gordon thing. I never claimed I texted Taylor yesterday. Theres a lot of nonsense being asserted about the SSPX lately online. What, Marshall seems to be asking, would Rambo do? If it is correct great. I wanted to continue, even w/ above: we were saving souls and thats all I care about: (7:57 PM), Thats why youll always see me warning against SSPX even though its trending now and him riding the wave. Home The Slow Death of ManhoodDr. Cuz the Church wont clarify. The statement in question is the false allegation that Francis said God positively wills a plurality of religions. Dr. Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon knock it outta da park HERE. (3:43 PM), I never claimed I texted Taylor yesterday. On 15 April 2020 I documented the fracas when Marshall abruptly terminated the contract of his associate in many videos, Timothy Gordon. He threw all 'boomers' under the bus and not all of them drank the V2 koolaid. Dont act as if fringe groups and their leaders arent the mob w/ gang bosses on Cath twitter. This shouldnt be engaged in public. And most of these people think youre scum just for going to the Novus Ordo. He sent a diplomatic text insinuating there wouldnt be a call. I heard he was mad about some of them, have helped you (by Gods grace) to decide to, , or better understand some doctrines and, Or you may believe my work is worthy to support for the purpose of apologetics and evangelism in general. Such heated rhetoric between ostensible allies and fellow reactionaries has huge implications for the internal unity of the reactionary movement, which appears to be significantly fracturing (an almost inevitable occurrence with all heretical, schismatic, and quasi-schismatic movements; I classify reactionaries as in the latter group). (12:36 PM), Dave and I disagree about *how close* VC2 comes to embracing ecumenism/modernism. Taylor Marshall is a schismatic and a heretic, and therefore is not properly called a Catholic. #TnT1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mTcyTZ_Yc02 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMTNjOjDmjM 3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKimOr9RRCI 4 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV9v0RUlqMQ 5 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQUjt0uZv-g 6 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyJ_EX1UPtA7 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-AG_nBPhH4 8 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YmEMbyttCs The Catholic Talk Show - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd9w8fxlmP4 When a parish member comes to me and says, So and so said this about the Faith I listen. (3:04 PM), Nobody wants the Catholic infighting, Taylor. Too many apologists charge ridiculous amounts to come and speak at parishes and conferences. We also look at the errors of Balthasar and his hypothesis of "Dare We Hope that All Be Saved" (a theory also espoused by Bishop Robert Barron). The answer always insinuates formal adherence to schism. (9:16 PM), Lets have robust discussion about the status of the SSPX (whom I still hold to be in objective schism) going forward, but in a spirit of Christian fraternity and unity. When a guru, as in John Corapi falls many are scandalized, some in my parish are just now returning to the Church. He wasn't just a teacher, he was a department chair, and popular with the area's conservative Catholics. Im fine. He is putting himself above the Pope, to judge his teachings to be gravely erroneous. Acta non verba. And it is contrary to the above discussed dogma that no Pope can teach heresy or grave error, i.e. Im always in need of more funds: especially. They are, A) shes calling names, not me B) my daughter has brain surgery in 90 mins and many of these people want to go to war with good guys like FSSP. Timothy replied in that discussion thread: Its not a matter of opinion. But now and then, a high-profile reactionary actually becomes more diabolically self-consistent (though further from the truth) and ventures over the line. Then the penalty for heresy and schism is automatic excommunication. Shaws statement excoriating Taylor Marshall on the same page, was cross-posted, along with the joint letter, at reactionary venue Rorate Caeli, in apparent agreement. I guess Taylor Marshall aint Braveheart. Learn how your comment data is processed. They were married on June 9, 2001, at Saint Andrew's Episcopal Church in Fort Worth, Texas. I think it comes dangerously close. They stopped being men and became guys, and now, in tragic numbers, feckless soy boys. They do not teach the love of God, nor the love of neighbor. We read the Vatican docs for their original public meaningthat which was ratified by a votenot their presumptive intentwhich isnt certainly ascertainable. Wish ALL of them into the Kingdom of Heaven[. I await your reply, Taylor Its sophistical to claim (ever) that its too late for civility. In the course of the discussion, Marshall commits public heresy and schism. We read the Vatican docs for their original public meaningthat which was ratified by a votenot their presumptive intentwhich isnt certainly ascertainable[.] And they pretend that he said the opposite. He specifically said that the plurality of religion is due to the permissive will of God. Your email address will not be published. Thats my ecclesiastical position. It is sheer blatant hypocrisy for him to also say that no one can judge the Pope. Marshall is not super tactful and has got into fights with his former friends over it. Now its happening to the one who was his partner. Now they havent judged him, obviously no one can do that. Hes got a good heart and weve both had a hard year. (1:50 PM), Thats what we are saying: we KNOW the intent was bad. [15] His 2019 book, Infiltration, claims to demonstrate that, over the last two centuries, the hierarchy of the Catholic Church has been actively subverted to promote Freemasonic power. Anyways, I kind of enjoyed these podcasts when I had the free time and was still learning about Catholicism, but as classes have ramped up, I admit to having stopped listening to a lot of them since I have very little free time now (I now listen to maybe a couple from Dr. Marshall here and there). [16] The foreword of the book was written by Bishop Athanasius Schneider. Marshall: I think they should have said the situation of a Pope espousing in individual cases things deemed to be heresy. . In this video, Pope Francis Accused of 7 Counts of Heresy by 19 Scholars, Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon discuss the Open Letter accusing Pope Francis of heresy. Show me where I called you a single name. Only dad does. But not while shots are fired hourly on Twitter and crowds watch on. I think its unfortunate that you used such over-the-top language about a fellow trad. Outward unity among the reactionaries has been fairly solid, since all alike detest and despise the pope (my enemys enemy is my friend.). More than Giving up Chocolate*. Look where it got them. God wanted to allow this: Scolastica theologians used to refer to Gods voluntas permissiva. Its contrary to the Councils, Tradition, Fathers.. Are they clarifying or scarifying? I cant do UNITY alone. All else is minutiae, God bless FSSP! Imagine being me in this situation. Under the dogma of the First Vatican Council, no valid Pope can possibly teach heresy or grave error, nor fail in faith. Ego kills. . But I saw Josephs tweet and found it disappointing. There are two hawks in LaBelle. I dont care about the business model. God bless our most holy, ardent, bold, yet obedient priests of the TLM! What would a resurrection of men look like? Im sorry to say it but he is an ignorant fool. He did so in defense of a joint letter about the popes Motu proprio, Traditionis Custodes, from The Superiors General of the Fraternity of St Peter (FSSP), the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest (ICKSP), the Institute of the Good Shepherd, and a number of other Superiors General of priestly institutes and religious communities attached to the Traditional Mass (including three communities of women). Taylor Reed Marshall (born March 29, 1978) is an American Catholic YouTube commentator,[1] former Episcopal Church priest, and former academic, now known for his advocacy of traditionalist Catholicism. All this time I thought "Jesus Revolution" Film & the Sacrament of Baptism. This, Timothy Gordon rejects. Quasi-schism is starting to fade . He never said. The latter of which was/is troubling and misleading, Im not convinced SSPX is in schismatic! See this list of magisterial teachings. I cant do UNITY alone. Because there are many religions, and why are there many religions? but for all negative comments about them. [17][18][19][20] In an interview, Archbishop Carlo Vigan spoke positively of the book's central thesis. They acted like old buddies and intellectual "colleagues." Two laymen with a youtube channel, spreading the news about the Pachamama dunker guy, etc. RoP [Right On Point] is a perfect forum for this. (, This bodes very ill for the future unity of the reactionary revolt, seeing that both Shaw and Sammons are part of, Steve Skojec, founder and former editor at, The entire trad movement has become a chorus of barking dogs. That is sad. It has long struck me that the faith has never been so under attack. Ill do it anytime. "It is a mistake to maintain that woman's rights are the same as man's. Women in war or Parliament are outside their proper sphere & their position there would be the desperation & ruin of society. Any Catholics who says about the Pope: I resist him to his face is a schismatic. I enjoy and respect them both. Its practically sedevacantist.. Its destructive and wrong. Daves position and mine, while distinguishable, are in close enough orbit to give faithful, non-contumacious, full-communion Catholics a nice spectrum to examine and choose from. Ron I know under Canon law the pope can resign, but does The conclave then examine the resignation to see if it meets Canon law and was freely done? The Twitter page for the latter (Im banned there but have seen a screenshot), proclaimed on 8 September: Marshall is a grifter with nothing to lose.. And that he committed a severe public detraction of Tim. And most of these people think youre scum just for going to the Novus Ordo. But we are fallen sinners, and God is merciful. (10:22 PM), Taylor, can you tell me in a sentence why SSPX is necessary when FSSP exists? Something happened to men in the last 50 years. [8][9] Prior to his administrative work at the college, he was a professor of philosophy. Sep 08, 2021. Dr. Taylor Marshall and Tim Gordon of the smashing TnT podcast (Taylor Marshall and co-host Tim Gordon) and YouTube channel join me to talk about the death of men and how it has affected the behavior of the . . Someone close to Taylor, tell him to return my call. He didnt. God allowed this. In another video, Taylor Marshall says this: I think the Pope has said heretical things. "The Catholic Monitor" Butchers My View of Papal "Eucharistic Pharisees" (Communion in the Hand). (4-14-20, 4:59 PM). (3:17 PM), Imagine being me in this situation. This shouldnt be engaged in public. (4-14-20, 4:34 PM), I ask everyone to pray for all parties involved. He wont call back. One has the right to defend ones reputation[.]. Patrick is the Canadian-born former host of "Catholic Answers Live," and he has raving fans around the world. Marshall and Gordon have each appeared on her YouTube channel, and Nicholas has interacted with her tweets more than 100 times since 2017. This happened on Easter Sunday when Taylor Marshall received the sacraments from the SSPX: the breakaway group which is in imperfect communion with the Catholic Church. Very sad. No one has the authority to do that, as the Popes decisions are not subject to review. But if youre saying that hes a heretic, which they say in his opening line, an heretical Pope, my ecclesiastical sense says, you also have to say: And therefore I am not in communion with him. And that is something that I, Taylor Marshall, on this date, cannot say. And he makes this absolutely clear later in the video: Marshall: Its like Paul in Galatians, he could resist Peter to his face, but he couldnt depose Peter. (7:58 PM), I called him yesterday. Honesty check time[.] Traditionis Custodes: Sky is Here After Four Months! Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon are one of the funniest Catholic guys on Youtube. [In Terra Pax Hominibus; Denzinger 351-353.]. Garabandal: Are the Prophecies About to be Fulfilled? Wish ALL of them into the Kingdom of Heaven, Im not a grudge holder. [28] Marshall and his family converted from Anglicanism to Catholicism. (. Why we need to stop validating the word feminism (namely its toxic meaning) with some kind of nice adjective, like Christian feminism, new feminism.. Catholic micro-celebrity is wholly meaningless and mostly fruitless. As they go through the seven accusations, Marshall and Gordon essentially assume that Francis does teach these seven alleged errors. He used the huge analytics boost his channel got from TNT and then ditched me, presumably cuz Im not Trad enuf for biz expsn[.] . Timothy Gordon. Bellarmine also condemned as proximate to heresy, the position that Vatican I made into heresy itself, that the Pope may be a heretic or may teach heresy. (4:22 PM), PS: this isnt a big deal. Sometimes they bark at perceived threats, sometimes they bark at each other, but the howling never ceases. I cant fully access Taylor Marshalls tweets because he blocked me, but I can get at some: I am grateful to the Priestly Society of Saint Pius X, by whom our Marshall family received the Resurrected Body of Christ on this Easter Morn. This mainstream trad Catholic dalliance with the schismatic SSPX (canon 751) is beginning to endanger the souls of the faithful and it needs quashing with dispatch. Canon 1364, n. 1: an apostate from the faith, a heretic, or a schismatic incurs a latae sententiae excommunication. Daves position and mine, while distinguishable, are in close enough orbit to give faithful, non-contumacious, full-communion Catholics a nice spectrum to examine and choose from. Ill speak to ANY of these guys Ive ever crossed swords with. Hes been ignoring me nearly 100% since almost immediately after he said he wouldnt do another year of TNT. This happened on Easter Sunday when Taylor Marshall received the sacraments from the SSPX: the breakaway group which is in imperfect communion with the Catholic Church. And thats just what it is, guessing. Never too late when people care for each other in true Christian charity (which I do for Taylor). Calling FSSP bootlicking (as many who were supporting your tweet were doing) IS fragging. It becomes like the infighting of pope-less Eastern Orthodoxy. This is contrary to the first Commandment of the Ten Commandments, You shall have no other gods before Me. . He explains why the communique was well done and why its critics such as Marshall have missed the mark so gravely. Cant be sensitive or grudge-holding over some of these memes. I will unsubscribe from the Taylor Marshall channel. So I hope the Good Lord will make allowances for us lesser folk. (11:30 PM), Dave and I guessabout the status of SSPX differently. Radical Catholic Reactionaries. (4-14-20, 8:58 AM). Timothys brother David (words in purple below) apparently started the current controversy with this tweet: This mainstream trad Catholic dalliance with the schismatic SSPX (canon 751) is beginning to endanger the souls of the faithful and it needs quashing with dispatch. There is no clearly statement of the public sin of schism than for a Catholic to say, I resist him to his face. You are not absolved of schism by stating that you recognize he is the Pope. He was a Catholic for about 13 years. The original story was that he was apparently leaving to focus on his own podcast series or something like it and that it was a relatively amicable departure. I think youre, closer to my position than Taylors since both of us wont attend SSPX (for ineffable reasons, even) and yet he will, In the interest Christian unity, Id like to emphasize that I do NOT believe that. 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