I also believe there are other factors at play here possibly being protected and I dont think LE wants the truth of what happened to Abby and Libby to come out for whatever reason. But that would mean that Becky Patty would have to say that she called the wife. I 100% agree about Mr X, and I recently seen a pic of his stepson which I think looks similar to the YBG sketch. The crime was committed in February 13 or 2/13. I noticed your nice comment on my YouTube page, thank you so much for your reply! Of course she did. The rumor is that his alibi is a Delphi police officer, Nate Allen, who committed suicide in December. 7) Hes local. When we line the two theories against each other, ours wins hands down. Are you speculating? The main suspect is brazen, openly admits to being a pedophile, goes to the victims graves and leaves flowers, and visits the victims families to offer solace for their losses. See the sort of games these guys play? Is there any way on Earth that BG could look like the young man in that sketch or even an 18-40 year old? But many questions still remain around the murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14. It turns out that we have acquired a sleuth who is a former detective. If you met me, you would laugh at them for saying that. BG threw toilet cleaner over the girls and every object at the crime scene, thereby eliminating most if not all of the usable DNA. You think Im stupid? Thank you for all the work on the Delphi case. Shes also written a book and is aware of my coverage. This whole case just reeks of something stinky every which way you turn. Oh, one more thing, Jim. We dont do that on here and never have. They just think its a sin that needs to be overcome. Here's what we've learned and what remains unclear: Apparently neither girl was a virgin and both girls were sexually active in terms of PIV sex. Little if any good information comes out of these places. BA, Journalism, Cal State University Long Beach, 1981. Hopefully justice will be served. They even try to cure effeminate gay men and let them back in the churches as long as they say theyre cured of homosexuality. Its more secure. The bodies of the two friends were found the next day, about . Sources What are the odds that both parties made up these specific lies on their own? How many journalists do you know who actually went to J-school and have J-degrees? it would have been nice to track the boot prints around the cemetery to the crime scene to the river but I would assume all that evidence is gone. Consequently, the accuracy of our statements should go up a lot too. Delphi murders investigation timeline:Review the case through 5 years of reporting. Abby was the one that had the boyfriend. FORT WAYNE, Ind. Otherwise why do we have religions? Much more on that below. She also managed to take a photo and record a small clip of the suspect. Still in Delphi, or on the border of Delphi. MIAMI COUNTY, Ind. See below for which rumors we believe are proven and which are unverified. Feel free to post about any unsolved case you think is interesting, high profile preferred. If it was Abbys phone this would imply she had a phone, he somehow got her number, he connected to a cell tower to send media, and then he took the phone. No ones been hurt by this case more than Becky Patty. Innocent people are hurt and killed in these cases, but theyre not really high profile and we dont have time to mess with this epidemic. I thought nobody looked like the BG in the actual video than PB (especially compared to that FB image with a deer)But now, not a chanceKirts fits that mofo better than allIts in the cheeks, the spit, etcThe cops have known for a while its him too I think. Of course, we empathize with their losses, but sympathy wears thin when someone is screaming in your face. We believe he staged the crime with these elaborate props either before or after the crime from this exact location. There is a small fee of $20 to join, which includes lifetime membership. Great to see you back on the case! Indiana Cold Cases is similar and so is True Crime Jesus. Some connection with Libby via geocaching. We dont just look at the Delphi case here. Which begs the question, if Mr. X is BG, how did he come to acquire a pair of Indiana Packers boots, which is what he appears to be wearing during his crime? What are they doing to move this forward? As far as my theories, I made a video (see here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IIoxYhsduLQ) that outlines the visions held a couple of days upon learning of this crime. Pregnancies are also risky for 13 and 14 year old girls. Police say they also discovered an unspent round from a gun near the girls bodies. But my opinion isnt worth anything. I do not want to see this man or his family harassed in any way. If they tried to take it to court, I am almost certain that the judge would throw it out before it even got to the trial stage. Can you email me with her name, please? Of course, there are trolls saying that the information Ive given is info thats already known. A lot of my friends didnt join. . I estimate that 85% of what we said here in past years has been shown to be false over time. I think the girls met up with BG somewhere on that trail before they got onto the bridge. I am 100% behind you. The truth is that some of the things LE said in that conference are true. Thanks. Within a ditch along a country road on her way home from school shortly after her murder. I believe Mr. X is the guy. Kelsi German has been cleared. If it was an adult male, that changes things considerably. Updated: 7:18 PM EST December 20, 2021. The motive was sexual. Yes, this man is the prime suspect at the moment, but that doesnt mean a whole lot. 5) He parked near the cemetery, but not at the cemetery. Some claims are listed as unverified. Novella Nedeff, a clinical associate professor at Indiana University's McKinney School of Law, said sealing court records after a defendant is in custody is unprecedented to her, and speculated. But we are not naming person. The family knew something was wrong. I just donated via PayPal. Video of the incident was released by police. I seem like the nicest guy youve met. I am running into one issue with Mr. X. I was wondering if there might be a different thought on this. All rights reserved. Also note that LE are now acting like they think the young catfish did the crime, not the older BG. The other person involved that is kin to this POI. However, I do not know how to contact you Sir. Im seeing in between. Hes a mechanic by trade, but used to drive trucks and works for a local trucking company with a high profile. There is so much junk, lies, theory, you name it, it is there. Not sure if its Tennessee, or Texas? But who was his roomate in evansdale in the hotel they stayed in? Distance of residence from crime scene at the time of the crime: Less than 2 miles to the east along the creek. I get the impression that LE thought that this officer was lying and were trying to offer him some protection. I am creating a special article about this to link to in order to deal with the constant hate comments in this regard so I dont have to keep going over this stuff in every update. . Recently, multiple local sources with knowledge have opened up to share that this was a hit ordered by a very powerful businessman who runs a criminal operation that some say is akin to a mafia-style family outfit. Isnt that logical. Whatever it was that caused her to react in such a way, I just hope she shared with law enforcement. The two girls were on a hiking trail when they were killed on Feb. 13, 2017. Were they are waiting for God Himself to come bring the keys? How about getting your moneys worth? People are saying that we have a copy of the gag order that was issued on the towing of the truck at the CPS building. An asterisk means the information is proven via LE information leaked to us. Some people are very insistent that Ron Logan is the killer. Our best police source just told us that Ron Logan has been absolutely cleared as a suspect. We sent him off to dig into Mr. X. Because of the number of people saying this rumor is true, it goes into the likely category. They recovered Libbys phone, so they wouldnt still be looking for the audio/video. Mr. X needed the lost his keys excuse to explain how he stayed in that spot for 18 hours. Some new info here. In August 2020, more than three years after Abigail Williams and Liberty German were found murdered in Delphi, Ind., Feb. 14, 2017, police questioned Kegan Kline about his conversations with. If so, wouldnt the coroner be able to obtain DNA from the fetus? The problem here is that before 5:30 PM, no one knew the girls were missing other than the families and a few friends. We know he had binoculars with him and he told the girls that he was a railroad policeman who had spotted them with binoculars. I almost have to wonder if thats why he later concocted the story about the keys, perhaps as an afterthought when he realized it would be hard to explain why he asked to search for the girls but then didnt find them somehow, Uhh I was more focused on finding my keys, I must have overlooked the two dead girls I was looking for in the first place.. Copyright 2022 WPTA. She still hasnt been able to process this, assuming such a thing can ever be processed. So, to end my novel, I agree with you. LE actually believes BG was 49-50 years old when he committed the crime. I read most of those posts over there and of course I read any post about me. LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- Court documents newly obtained by WDRB link a man in jail with social media accounts police are investigating in connection with the murders of two young girls in. Crime. In these cases, we have 4-5 separate sources, usually vaguely referred to as inside sources, testifying to the truth of something. She feels he is a current POI who is working OT to divert attention away from himself and mislead the public. Like a coward, we would add. For the latest true crime and justice news,subscribe to the Crime Stories with Nancy Grace podcast. Ive used that a thousand times, especially when there are two or more suspects in adjacent interrogation rooms. Not sure of the significance here. He could offend today in say, Ohio and offend in Illinois and be in his journey back home to commit more offenses. Maybe he sent it to Libbys phone. No one knows if Mr. X is guilty or not. INDIANAPOLIS Indiana State Police say his personal pictures were used to lure young girls - a cop, victimized in a catfish scheme and suddenly thrust into the Delphi murders investigation. So when you are saying, No way does Lindsay have inside sources or official documents, do you think its possible that a team of 230 sleuths all working together could have come up such things? Paul, I know exactly what videos you are talking about on YouTube. No, he came up with the lost my keys gambit to explain why his car sat at the cemetery from 6:30 PM the day of the crime to 12:30 PM the next day when the girls bodies were found, a period of 18 full hours. This week we continue our coverage of this very high profile case. The dolls may have been placed there before the crime. Hmm . I came to Delphi, Indiana to retrace the murder of Libby and Abby.More videos on My Second Channel - https://www.youtube.com/mobileinstinct2My T-Shirts & Swe. I hope he doesnt read here but I knew a Facebook group mod who was in contact with him and she felt he was either gay, an effeminate man, or a Beta, as she put it. Ok how on Earth do they know that BG shot 43 seconds of audio unless that rumor about sending the crime film to the phones is true? Then email me and and I will give you the link and password and I will also let you into the new forum where you can set up your own name and password. Someone driving from Laporte to either of these places would very likely pass through Kingsbury on a normal trek not involving abduction and murder. Say for instance LE arrested Mr. X and charged him with the double homicides of these two girls. Logan was never formally named a suspect and never charged in the Delphi murders. The murders of Liberty "Libby" German, 14, and Abigail "Abby" Williams, 13, shocked the small town of Delphi, Indiana because of their apparent randomness. Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams were best friends who went everywhere together. Not only that, but Mr. Xs alibi is that he was in another town from 2:15-3:15 PM on the day of the crime. I doubt it. Apparently. Copyright 2022 WNDU. Amazing work! Long, 22 pages. Dorian Belecamus, a beautiful and bewitching archaeology professor, sees an opportunity to do more than dig into the past: this is her chance to seize control of her country's futureby becoming the Oracle of Delphi . Theres a connection that has been missed! There was an early raid on the Indiana Packers plant in Delphi that was done by LE. Delphi, Indiana from at least 1984-2021. There are neighbors separated by acreage. Big KAK getting hungry and Dad is no longer speaking to him. The date of the crime and the time of the abduction are both 2-13. Richard Allen, 50, of Delphi has been charged with two counts of murder in the deaths of Abigail J. They talked to Ron and he allowed them to park on her land. We now know a lot of things about the main suspect, including the name, age, height, weight, marital status, possible offspring, address, names of wife and children, and history of his life. I just got banned from Twitter again for no real good reason, so Im not feeling that great. Tell her I said HAVE A NICE DAY! They have most recently stated that they want to avoid double jeopardy. FSG is at the trails every day. FSG along with others present at the bridge have been investigated as possible lookouts for BG. Im confused. I have not been able to determine that from all of these postings. Newly-obtained transcripts were released shortly after the fifth anniversary of the deaths of Abby Williams and Liberty German, two young girls who were murdered in Delphi, Indiana, in 2017. Leave this poor man alone, for Gods sake. At the very least he could have made misleading statements. I didnt remove it. I see hot, humid conditions. If I were LE, I would take a long, hard look at Rick Brown in Delphi, Indiana. He killed at least five people, specializing in young women. If others want to dig around and find out who he is, thats their business. Something to think about. I think I talked to one of her friends like I told them. He was very fearful and it really hit him hard how he got treated on that Reddit sub. Also, a copy of the police scanner is available showing that Mr. Xs wife is supposed to be coming to the site to retrieve Mr. Xs truck. There is a rumor that LE has a partial DNA sample from an unknown male from one of the girls. Possibly works with kids. Thats going to be very hard for him to explain. 242? Everyone was crowding around to look at the crime he had committed. It was dark. Notice that BG committed his crime with large knives or hatchets, his preferred weapon. Yes, that is what I referred to; i.e. The girls hand was wrapped around the knife to make it appear that she was stabbing herself. Logan, who died on January 24, 2022, was never arrested or charged with the murders. He met few if any of those girls he was talking to. He was also scared to join her group because I was in there and he was afraid of me. Thats a GoPro on BGs waist and he filmed his crime. Kegan Kline cannot be involved either. We now have a better time frame for Mr. Xs truck being parked at the cemetery. In particular, user/tobor is excellent. He took a piece of jewelry from Libby as a trophy thats also buried. I find it interesting that you stated he told the girls that he was a railroad policeman so that audio must have been on one of the girls cell phones? I think he may have had over 1,000 photos/videos on his drives or possibly more. The Hanish & Bowen case have revealed this for them (thus the new direction & young BG sketch & ditching of old BG sketch in 2019 a month after Hanish)I bet Hanish was catfished using that Anthony_Shots account toohe mustve been told or overheard info about the Delphi murders & therefore removedBowen removed for either the same thing or fact she knew the truth behind Hanish murder (b/c I definitely am not buying that Kirts is bisexual & choked him out during a weird sexcapade, gimme a break). You will see below where we regard certain things as Proven. I dont get that vibe at all with everything I know, but then again I know very little lol. Unfortunately, its not free. I I heard the girls say repeatedly, Its Elementary Watson, and 2 plus 2 equals 4. Now, I have denied knowing something that I actually knew, but that was to protect the integrity of an investigation. They dont have enough on the main suspect him to take him to trial, but they enough to think did it. This girl was refusing to get an abortion that he wanted her to get. But the scanner doesnt say she came to bring the keys. Only a deer kit looks just like that. BG was dressed in clothes similar to what Ron wore, and he took the girls to Rons land and killed them there. But no, that was not the case. It is important to note that you are under no obligation to tell the police anything. He took it with him in some sort of hunting pack? You mentioned a pic of CSI workers with a doll a couple of days ago did anything come of this? There is no doubt in my mind or anyone who is in possession of an IQ higher than double digit range that Ron Logan is not the killer. Oh one more thing. Thank you I came here after being directed to you. Corn fields? We also have at least one other search warrant for another home. Knives. Hes innocent. Theres just journalists. Published February 2, 2023 12:52pm EST Indiana prosecutors say Delphi murders suspect Richard Allen should not be released on bail Richard Allen, 50, is accused of killing 14-year-old Liberty. Hasnt he suffered enough? Hi folks. Highly suspicious and the states that are responsible are more interested in getting into pissing contests as opposed to finding her. Im nothing at all like how they describe me. Just thought I would draw your attention to it. Two young girls disappear off of an extraordinarily dangerous bridge in the middle of the day when they had plans to be picked up at a specific time? I believe you could be spot on with your main POI. Hes afraid hes going to be framed with these murders, a reasonable fear. It doesnt seem like a normal person would stay at that location for all that time. Now, for the first time, we're hearing from the man whose pictures were stolen and used by that "anthony_shots . Why would they NOT want to look for those types of things in a child murder with likely sa involved? If its who I think it is, you can tell her I said that. Not because theres any evidence that they were lookouts, but more because everyone in that situation at the time of the murders is being looked at that way. 43 seconds of audio. Although no arrests have been made in the case, the transcripts detail information that puts the case back in the national spotlight. Thats actually how I was pointed to you because apparently, I copied from you (YouTube actually deleted these comments too ). The last person on Earth to protect the killer is poor Becky Patty, God bless her mortal soul. Best friends Libby German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, were found dead after being reported missing in Delphi, Indiana in February 2017. https://www.reddit.com/r/LibbyandAbby/comments/n33koj/gray_hughes_new_information/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf. However, Mindtruth has done a number of episodes on our information and I thank Bruce for that very much. Mr. X has is not even at the Person of Interest stage in this case. I get it. Numbers 1-4 were told to a retired detective who works with one of our team members us by an LE source close to the investigation. Let us know if you want to join the private sleuthing site where we can talk about this stuff in much greater detail than we do out here. BG must have fired his gun at some point in this crime. It said she was coming to deliver the keys. Anyway, LE believes that Bridge Guy is Mr. X. Theyre not looking at anyone else. I dont care what anybodys age is. He posted a photo on Facebook around three weeks to a month after the murders. FORT WAYNE, Ind. And if it was 43 seconds, it would be on Libbys phone! Hence, following Occams, our theory is the best explanation of the facts. Im not sure how he got there, if he drove a car, or if so, where he parked it. As youve pointed out Mr. X did this before the search party had even assembled, right at the EXACT parcel of land that the girls bodies would be found the next day. Deer kit on waist with five hunting knives. There would have to be some sort of connection to Mr. X for me to suspect him, and I dont see any as of yet other than odd behavior in searching for the girls. This person is externalizing their pain into rage and projecting it outwards at the world. There is a main suspect who has been the main suspect for a very long time. But they didnt get to ask him about PB. These are simply unverified rumors. However, these are all unconfirmed rumors. The case for Mr. X is as solid as ever. Neither one can possibly be BG. We have no idea why the order was issued. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Oh, one more thing. He is wearing a deer kit, which contains five different types of knives. The sheriffs deputy did not work on the case. Could be something more nefarious. Another reason he stayed is we believe that he enjoyed the drama. These two men, driving in the younger mans black truck with pink stripe, were witnessed in the vicinity on or near the cemetery road at approximately 5:30 AM February 14, 2017. Rumor is that Abbys was pink. I see on Reddit that they mention you in a negative way, but dont listen to those people! Are we making up lies about getting information from police when we actually have no contacts with them? Interestingly, I had NO idea who you were (sorry). Can we prove it? If he had those objects found at the crime scene in his truck, he could have easily carried them down to the crime scene and used them to stage it with the objects. There is no way he would come back later to stage anything because he wouldnt know how safe it was or how many law enforcement would be around. I see that you have replied to someone after mine, I am genuinely curious about this difference in graduation dates and would like to chat. R/LibbyandAbby is awful, but its a lot better than r/DelphiMurders. But how could they possibly know this? Victim was an 8-12 year old female. Paul Etter: A 55 year old local man of many interests. He may be watching the coverage of this case . That could be why they referred to BG as a creepy guy and still following us. Otherwise, and putting myself in their situation, if I saw someone at a distance on the bridge, I would have thought it was just another hiker and would not have been concerned that he was still following me. This is a rumor that a woman walking her dogs on the bridge at 12:30 PM on the day of the murders, a full hour before BG probably appeared on the trails at 1:30 PM, saw a man who looked like the Young BG sketch. BG was very well disguised that day with a white scarf covering the lower half of his face. Currently, no arrests have been made, and the investigation continues. Theyre not that common. That is because we got these statements either directly from LE, official case documents, or the same conclusions reached independently by two different sources (for this to be false, both sources would have had to make up the exact same lie), or from direct statements from one of the girls guardians. Another one of the videos had what Im assuming is a LinkedIn profile of some sort spliced into the slide show for a brief moment. Our reporting partners at WPTA in Fort Wayne spoke with IUPUI Professor and Director of the Forensic and Investigative Sciences Program John Goodpaster. First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: Our private group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far and has been since it was founded four years ago in 2017. Welcome to the site! If one of the girls was pregnant, was the pregnancy a result of intercourse with Mr X? Thank you! Guilty until proven innocent! In fact just based on what I have going on, researching this case is the absolute last thing I should be doing, but its drawing me in, and I cant help it. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I read through it early on, saw interesting stuff and then later came back and tried to find the interesting stuff but got lost. Its very rare for killers to take photos or videos of their crimes. The dots connecting back to Iowa with the Tyson plant etc is great investigative work. Do you know why FSG was there at the trails; how long hed been there; how he got there; if he drove, what sort of car he drove and where he parked it. Delphi Bridge murder victims Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, were found to have lost a large amount of blood when discovered dead close to an Indiana hiking trail in February 2017. Trials. LE has no clue what is going on. I have joined the group on face book #Delphi Murders. (WPTA/WNDU) - Documents have been released in the Delphi murders case, but questions about the evidence and how Abby Williams and Libby German died remain. Was Mr X aware of the pregnancy and the murder was to hide that fact? It would have to be a day or two before people would think to look. Privacy Policy. A vote on funding the Crisis Response Center, contracted with Oaklawn, is expected on March 14. LE must know that BG recorded 43 seconds of audio, presumably of his crime. Bottom line is our theories now are dramatically more accurate than the 85% error rate we had earlier. My background is nowhere near close to any qualifications for this. Yes, a lot of our very early information turned out wrong, but now that we have studied the case much more clearly, our view of the case is getting a lot more accurate as we are able to rule in or out various rumors and hypotheses. 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