I dont see anyone refuting these claims besides the people on the internet who werent there and want to believe every single last syllable LE says. I'm assuming LE must "ask them" or straight out tell them to keep such information strictly to themselves for the sake of the on-going investigation. To say that all of the details intertwined with so many different people and relationships is complex would be an understatement. On the Evansdale, Delphi case, who is the suspect? LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- New details have been released in the case of two young girls found murdered in Indiana five years ago. Please correct me if you know otherwise. He has not been charged or accused of any wrongdoing in the deaths of Abby and Libby. You realize that we have a detective in Indiana who told us that Mr. X is LEs main suspect in this case, right? That should at least tell us something. ISP's tip line related to the case will remain open so the public can share information about the suspect or others possibly involved in the case. You disagree that the Delphi Murders are connected to what? Mr. X? At the conclusion of Tuesday morning's 40-minute hearing, Special Judge Fran Gull said she will publish a decision on whether to make public the charging documents and affidavit after reviewing both sides' arguments. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, http://www.pharostribune.com/news/local_news/article_031b521c-f2e3-11e6-a249-a77587cb24f9.html. "My worry is if he is trying to get a plea deal or whatever, then what if he's just telling them lies? A rose will bloom, it then will fade. Delphi murder suspect Richard Allen, 50, was involved in a domestic incident in June. Most compelling is the tattoo of what is clearly Libbys face with two bones and a skull framing it. I read that they had teams searching on the second day. I think this is one of the essential clues in both cases. Its sad. Watch on. Generally at organized searches there's a required sign in sheet so all the volunteers can be accounted for at the end of the search shift. Lilly caps cost of insulin at $35 a month, bringing relief for Hoosiers, Paramount Englewood exceeding diversity, academic norms, Marion County Traffic Court closing in May, IMPD releases bodycam footage of January shooting involving 3 officers. He was charged with a probation violation for driving with a suspended. I've hardly seen anyone speak about the search party. It seems odd. We also believe that he never lost them in the first place, and they were probably in his pocket the whole time. Logan was never formally named a suspect and never charged in the Delphi murders. We have people in the police who talk to us. Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. Is this confirmed? is that that damned stuffed animal is as tall as Abby. She is rumored to have been brutalized more than Abby. 00:14:20 - In this episode, the Murder Sheet provides several quick updates on the Delphi murders and the related investigation into the "anthony_shots" profil Multiple sources indicate that a man named Richard Allen was booked into the Carroll County Jail Friday in connection with the Delphi murder investigation. Delphi murders:What we know and don't know 5 years after Abby and Libby were killed. Days after the bodies were found, Indiana State Police released a photo of a man they suspected was involved in the killings. Our understanding also is that he never even called her to have her bring the keys. A special needs woman and a toddler? Richard Allens point is it will not., Who is Delphi suspect Richard Allen?Indiana town wants answers about man who 'blended in'. As far as Mr. X being a POI, I disagree, as I also disagree that the Delphi Murders are connected. Officials did not discuss the timeline of events or evidence that led to Allens arrest, saying only that a judge determined that there was probable cause. Ive heard that when a killer feels something for his victim, hes more likely to care for the body, for example, wrap it in a blanket to protect it from the elements, etc. Thats why Carter was so livid that night because their main suspect was right there in the room. There were dolls hanging from trees. Kline replied: "I have no clue. So that seems proven too. Based on investigators experience it is reasonable to believe that the creation of an alibi prior to the discovery of a crime indicates culpability or knowledge of the crime, the agent wrote. "It's obviously significant in some way; I can only just hope that it's for the girls, but we don't know. And my calculations by measuring the bear and comparing it to the height of Abby (54?) Were going to keep pushing all the way. Prosecutors fueled speculation during Tuesday's hearing that Richard Allen was not alone when they allege he killed Libby German and Abby Williams in early 2017. On Delphi, I agree with you about Chadwell. Gray makes over $100,000/year from his podcasts, which is fine by me. So this implies that the two men were alone with each other, surely. Would that indicate they (Abby and Libby) were put there after the search was called off? LE did not say it was over by 3 pm-ish. A large amount of blood was lost by the victims at the crime scene, the agent writes. The arrest of Allen comes nearly six years after Libby and Abby were murdered. The family had trouble finding people to help them search. Indiana State Police. Trexler was held in custody for a week in place of a $1,200 bond. The search along the Wabash began around August 19, when investigators were seen combing through the shallow waters with metal detectors and scuba gear. The agent said Logan claimed someone drove him to an aquarium store in Lafayette on the afternoon of February 13 at the time the girls disappeared. Our group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far. "Yeah, that is a weird a** coincidence that I happened to talk to her like I get that.". So why waste your money on Hughes and Greeno? I don't know. As a psychologist though, It does makes me stop and think about LE and the types of scenes and different tragedies etc. Why not donate to the best Delphi sleuthing team of all by donating to me, leader of a group of 230+ sleuthers who have been working on the case for four years now? New information about the murders of Delphi eighth graders Liberty German and Abigail Williams became public Monday, and police have a man in custody. Then again if it was recent, makes me wonder if the guilt of covering up for Mr. X may have been eating him up inside? Required fields are marked *. If thats the case, wouldnt you think they would have been noticed the first day during the search? However, they only cut pigs throats that way in kosher slaughterhouses. Im not sure if the reason for this is because the search parties just mentally glossed over that particular location for more remote spots or because theres something geographically strategic about that particular area that makes it less detectable. Im not sure how they phrased it of they told, ordered or threatened them to not reveal what they saw. He tells off women in passive aggressive hostile posts. "As Doug Carter said that earlier, if you recall. Hi Robert. I appreciate your work. Either he went there to hunt or he was set off by their rudeness and then, enraged, decided to teach them a lesson, Libby in particular. Were not doing that anymore. A five-and-a-half-year nationwide search for a suspect in the killings of two Indiana teens ended with the arrest of a local man, authorities said Monday.. How investigators came to arrest 50-year . Thanks for posting. We share similar philosophies. For years, Becky Patty, Libertys grandmother, has posted a photo on Facebook every day in memory of the girls, usually with the words Today is the day in the image. Nice guy! McLeland said the public and media interest in the case rekindled after Allen's arrest, and Allen's wife had to flee the community. Just a guess. I dont know about the rest of you, but I am looking at that damned bear or dog or whatever it is and I am thinking, Thats a stuffed animal. If any of you all think thats not a stuffed animal and its really something else, speak up now or forever hold your tongue. ", Jury inspect eerie Murdaugh murder scene where mom & son were executed, US Navy faces being totally outgunned by China in just seven years, says expert, Dances with Wolves actor pleads not guilty in 'sex cult' case, TikTok star, 28, is charged with child abuse after 'attack on boyfriend', 2020 THE SUN, US, INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED | TERMS OF USE | PRIVACY | YOUR AD CHOICES | SITEMAP, Travis Trexler was arrested on DUI charges, Kegan Kline was contacting Libby German through a catfish social media account the night before she was murdered, Libby (left) was murdered alongside her best-friend Abigail Williams (right) in Feb. 2017, Travis Trexler is a cousin of Kegan Kline's, Police ended a six-week search of the Washab River on Wednesday, The culprit behind the murders has never been identified, Precisely how the two girls were killed has never been revealed by police. To me, that explains a lot about why it took them so long to find the girls in the first place. See how people are reading too much into this guy? Delphi Murders Update April 26, 2021: You Sure There Was No Stuffed Animal Left at the Crime Scene? Any theories? The investigation is ongoing and open, various authorities reiterated during the news conference. The next chapter is now were on to the prosecution side, right? Carroll County judge recuses himself in Delphi murders. Its the wife herself supposedly coming back to give him his keys. This is also a problem because brains go everywhere and this is probably how those prion diseases like Mad Cow disease are spreading. Thank you. Second thing to consider, From what I understand (per the Prosecutors podcast on the Delphi Murders from a few months ago, which isnt entirely accurate but better than most) they called the official search party off at 11pm or midnight. Police announced on Monday that a suspect has been arrested in the killings of two teenagers that rocked a small town in Indiana more than five years ago. From the very beginning, I felt that the perp(s) is/are local, and that they knew the girls through the friends and family circles. Allen was taken into custody on Oct. 26 by detectives on the task force after probable cause allowed it. He boasts hed like to beat the guy up even if it means incarceration. A massive law enforcement presence arrives, and a double murder investigation begins . The main suspect and the CSI guy. Suspect Richard Allen arrested in 2017 killings of 2 teens in Indiana, Four reasons a credit-card balance transfer may be a bad idea, Dont let paying for a funeral add to your grief, Beware of these pitfalls when planning your own funeral. Also a lot of what is being sad about this guy are just flat out straight up lies. It is in the best interest of the public to find anybody else involved.. By mid-morning, the downtown Delphi Fire Department became a makeshift command center for volunteers assisting in the search. They are both saying the same thing independently, too, and we have no evidence that they talked to each other. "That is accurate," Becky Patty said. allege he killed Libby German and Abby Williams, Review the case through 5 years of reporting, Indiana town wants answers about man who 'blended in', Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. So they were alone with each other, supposedly, from ~2 pm to 3.30-4 pm on a Monday afternoon. I find it pretty compelling that BP is connected to 6 murdered girls!? Indiana State Police plan a Monday morning news conference to update the investigation of the Delphi murders and who might have killed Libby German and . Though police have refused to comment on whether the river search is related to Kline or the Delphi murders, sources close to the investigation indicated toThe Murder Sheetpodcast that it is. Unlike any other sleuthers, we have actually determined the main suspect in the case, and we have a pretty good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like. The river is roughly 40 miles from whereLibby and Abby were killed and around two miles from theKline family home. What if he's full of s**t? Not validated via LE, but its a popular rumor that police officer NM was the one supplying the apparently fake alibi for Mr. X. In addition, SPM2 also reported the same dolls hanging from trees that SPM1 report. Because this is a pending investigation, we do not have any details to share at this time., FBI Special Agent in Charge Herbert J. Stapleton. The revelation is included in a nine-page request for a search warrant filed March 17, 2017, a little more than one month after the murders. It is not a a palette knife, I know that much. Precisely how they were killed has never been revealed by police. The killings of teens Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in February 2017 have . "If it is related, whatever they're looking for, I hope it comes sooner rather than later. On February 13, 2017, Liberty "Libby" German, 14, and Ab Would you consider writing a post on him? Love your writing and insights. Becky Patty reflected on the importance of Monday's announcement, speaking steadily and calmly, telling reporters she had envisioned a different reaction. However, bond may be granted if the case does not appear to be strong, according to Indiana law. This is from NMs obit: he was a Crime Scene Technician. "I literally have no clue how that girl died; I don't know anything, anything to do with it," he told cops. It seems wrong somehow that it could be this narcissistic doofus. Authorities said that Richard M. Allen, 50, of Delphi, Ind., was taken into custody last week and charged with two counts of murder Friday in the killings of Liberty German, 14, and Abigail. The chatter rose again after Allen sat down between his attorneys. If not and it is him, did he know who THEY were? However, the agent said, These statements were found to be factually false and intentionally designed to deceive LEOs (Law Enforcement Officers).. Delphi murders investigation timeline: Review the case through 5 years of reporting. He has the whole town on his friends list. The big stuffed animal and all of the dolls would haunt me to the point that I would eventually have to tell someone. This is apparently all correct! The agent said Logan contacted his cousin and asked him to tell that story before the bodies were found. DELPHI, Ind. 0:04. Its like he wants these two tween girls on the cusp of womanhood to remain forever children and sexually innocent and so leaves them surrounded by a childs toys, both as a kind of apology to them, as well as way to announce to the world that he has effectively preserved them as children forever. Theres a puppy sticking out of the bears collar. Your email address will not be published. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. (WLS) -- There is a new push for information four years after police found teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams dead, in Delphi, Indiana. Here in Gary, about two years ago, a special needs woman and a toddler she lived with went missing. He took his wife with him. This is still a very ongoing investigation, McLeland said. The police didn't take them seriously at the very beginning. "We now move forward through the Indiana criminal justice system allowing the system to provide its due diligence and process," Carroll County SheriffTobe Leazenbysaid at a press conference inside Delphi United Methodist Church. Sarah Larimer contributed to this report. No, but no way is this guy involved. The agent goes on to say I believe there is probable cause to believe that RONALD LOGAN has committed the crime of murder and evidence of that can be found on RONALD LOGANS property.. He was seated right smack in the middle of the room. I do not understand the part about the CSI guy. He posts that while at a restaurant, he observed what he decided is a man touching his kids inappropriately. I am looking on thoughts on this guy as well. Thanks for your work and your blog. and our Both of the Pattys are quite insistent that theres no way he did it after all, he was a friend of theirs. Its a much better purchase for your money than throwing money at Hughes and Greeno, for which you get almost nothing in return. To me, he seems very stupid and immature, and I guess I want to believe the BG is some highly intelligent criminal mastermind to do something so awful and then evade capture for so long. I think I read about that case! Indiana State Police confirmed to WISH-TV on Wednesday afternoon that the search ended after six weeks. The 38-year-old was arrested in September 2015 on a warrant for operating a vehicle while intoxicated and driving while intoxicated with a controlled substance. ", The detective said: "Then why'd you search?". that they must witness throughout their careers and how extremely difficult it must be to deal with. I too wondered about foul play. They sell them on Valentines Day. I will agree with SPM1 who seemed to say that there was a stuffed animal toy at the scene that was so large that BG could not have been carrying it with him on the bridge. The document was written by an FBI agent and describes what investigators found when they discovered the bodies of Abby and Libby on Feb. 14, 2017. 4 min read. He may indeed have been a hunter who worked for Tyson. The motive is likely to be a lot sicker than that. Also close friends with Ron Logan and Tobe Lozenby! I guess the gist of it is that there were potentially hundreds of people signed up to search, citizen and LE, by the second day? It also hints at the idea that they were meeting someone there, a gift for a date. Kline responded. Its not his mother and its not the Exorcist girl, its Libby. Its nothing. To this day they haven't been found. I havent seen the tape but a friend saw it and she said he had a huge smirk on his face the whole time. The two girls had gone for a walk on an old railroad bridge along Monon High Bridge trail near Delphi, Indiana, on February 13, 2017, when they were murdered. "And thats the case. We must continue to be mindful of their surviving family members and the entire Carroll County community who are affected by this investigation., Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter, The FBI has provided assistance to the Indiana State Police and the Carroll County Sheriffs Office in this investigation and will continue to help in any way we can to see justice done for Libby and Abby. Every time one comes up, everybody flips and says this is the guy!! The superintendent reminded those attending and listening remotely to the press conference to continue sending any information related to the case about Allen or any other individual to the tip line set up years ago: Call 1-844-459-5786; or email abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. ", Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. WISH-TV was the first to break the story connecting Kline to the Anthony Shots social media profile in Dec. 2021. As far as whether there was a giant 5 foot stuffed animal left at the crime scene, even though I can see that thing clear as air, that rumor is so insane that I am not going to believe unless I get some further testimony. It was his first appearance in public since his Oct. 28 arrest and initial hearing. Legal documents released earlier this month also seem to support the assertion. Crews were being sent out 10 to 12 people at a time to help cover an area of 20 to 25 square miles, Leazenby said. " (T)he media accounts concerning this cause have contained an undue number of statements relating no only to the progress of the investigation, but conclusions of the investigation, some of which have been untrue.". oh so he died recently? Simply because Delphi, Flora fire, and prior fraud/scams, all would be the same crime. Ive looked at associates of the business owners of the Flora house fire, and there are some very interesting names, big names, powerful names, cop names, etc. We now know who the FBI was looking into at first as a potential . Because the conditions of two men being alone with each other and out of sight of others for a significant period of time are pretty narrow. If the affidavit remains sealed, Rozzi said, it will make the prosecutors' and the defense attorneys' jobs more difficult since they will have to vaguely allude to allegations during arguments in future hearings, including the scheduled Feb. 17 hearing on whether Allen should be released on bond. And the new one we just talked to is saying that she was told not to tell anyone, but the scene was bugging and eating away at her so much that she just had to spill finally. Allen is being held at the White County jail without bond and has hearing dates scheduled for January and March 2023. To have enough presence of mind to activate that video system on her cellphone, to record what we believe is criminal behavior thats about to occur.. The FBI also announced that it is utilizing approximately 6,000 electronic billboards in 46 states to solicit information on the case. He tells off women in passive-aggressive hostile posts. Regarding Mr X, wouldnt the girls have known him if he were friends with Libertys grandparents? Maybe because he witnessed real dolls where the girls were found? In addition, I can see a stuffed animal in the crime scene photo. In other words, its now proven that more than one stuffed animal was left at the scene. Thx for the point about girls being abducted off trails and being boxed in on both sides in both cases. Also the point about girls being dumped in places frequented by hunters. Theres one reason I think we can all think of, best left unmentioned, and another, that they were out in the nowhere, possibly hunting but far away from the crime scene. His behavior and his videos are being looked over with a toothcomb and theyre getting it all wrong. If he isnt the BG, he has some macabre fascination with the murder. The public has an absolute right to the information, but at what cost? McLeland said. A man being eyed in the unsolved 2017 murders of two teens in Delphi, Indiana, has an "evil streak" and is "absolutely capable" of committing that type of crime, his brother said. Grays videos run to 3-4 hours and may contain five minutes of useful material if you are lucky during that time. This makes me think of the dolls and stuffed animal left at the scene. Moments after multiple law enforcement agencies announced the arrest of Richard Allen, 50, in the 2017 killings of Delphi teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams, the grandparents of one of the girls spoke of how their lives have turned a page. So he killed them and then left them a Valentines Day gift for Valentines Day! "While this is another chapter in this story, our lives that were going through right now, I want to make sure we continue that, right? A number of those slaughterhouses around there are indeed operated by Orthodox Jews. He was released on September 8, court records show. I would like to know when BP appraised that house and when the fire happened, 2 days 5 days, 2 weeks etc.? As the search for Abby Williams and Libby German ends at a crime scene, the reality of what's happened is worse than anyone could have imagined. 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