Shanann was 15 weeks pregnant at the time she was killed. Hello. Didnt like his Mustang, made him sell it. He was locked up within 48 hours. R111, no-fault; yes, regarding reasons for separation and division of assets. And did she legally change it? Technically, Chris had power in a divorce action, but because he was so trapped financially, he couldnt even start the process and learn that he did have some options. Then he killed his daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3 at his job site on an oil field. In the early morning hours of August 13, 2018, a young mother returned home from a business trip. in Carthage, NC. I SWEAR she had it. ! she texted, adding, He said we are not compatible anymore! But I do wish he had let them live, and just walked off with his truck driver girlfriend. Clothes, protein bars, vitamin supplements, make-up. Chris Watts: Complete Cast of Characters | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs. How do you think she bought that house on a retail managers salary? Authorities still do not know exactly what led Chris who was having an affair with a co-worker to kill his whole family that fateful morning, after which he went on TV news to plead for her safe return.". She's the murdered frau of Chris Watts, who also killed their two tots. Shanann to Shan'ann. This community exists to discuss the murders of the Watts family and the subsequent arrest of Chris Watts. LEONARD was unable to get details from her. Maybe I will become Jesus. [quote]I dont trust every single thing he said & I still think he cares enough (for whatever reason) about his reputation & how people view him (close friends, family members like his mom & dad, and even Nichol K. and the public) to leave certain things out/fudge the truth about some of the incidents he described. Shanann was so excited to have her first baby girl. Today, February 1, was Shannan's due date for her unborn baby. Why the haste to get out of there so quickly? I wish I could describe betterthey remind me of some kids I know whose parents are lazy vegans whose idea of dinner for a two-year-old is a baby bowl of lentils with white vinegar sprinkled over and pretty much that all the time. Once she was done, she cut herself off from him. R211, they should have used a female investigator with gigantic breasts, grating voice and bossy demeanor. I thought it was very telling of Scam'Ann's personality: SHE, and she alone, will lord over the money; yet, she was such a financial liability that her name wasn't even on the house (and I'm assuming the mortgage.). Does anyone know if hes made any statements or has spilled any tea? Watts was convicted of strangling his wife, Shanann, 34, in the house and then smothering his daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, at his work site. Every real life character in this story is interesting, especially the victim. Colorado believes a child has the right to love, support, and significant parenting time from both parents. His brother's widow (Arie) spoke to an NBC affiliate station in NC that she was "sick over it" and that it was "heartbreaking." It was a part of his responsibility. But the whole "act of passion" angle doesn . Crime Junkie podcast just did an episode on this case. It was probably some scam. Shananns husband, Chris Watts, 33, can be heard singing in the background.". I should have been tipped off when I saw how close the Watts' house was to Nosy Nate's; they could have passed a cup of sugar without leaving their kitchens. LEONARD said that he was very interested in marriage counseling and they went to a couple sessions, but it was virtually impossible to engage SHANANN in conversation. On social media, the couple seemed like they had a perfect marriage. A new documentary on the Watts family murders shines a spotlight on the deteriorating relationship between Colorado family annihilator Chris Watts and his wife, Shanann. John Forbes officiating. But I do view him as a victim. If so she more recently passed away as well at only 33 and leaving their 6 year old with neither mom or dad just tragic https://www.forbisanddick.com/obituaries/Arie-King/#!/Obituary. I do not like her, but I can see why she was a breath of fresh air for Chris. R150 The overspending was documented on her social media and records about the financial problems are out there as well. Always always have your own liquid accounts if you are married! There is never a good enough reason to do what he did. Despite having the same triggers, we never had attacks at the same time. He said that she used it constantly when he knew her and she was very well attached to it. How does he go from doing their hair every morning and making sure they had baths & snacks everyday (and reading them bedtime stories, etc.) Facebook & its ilk are full of fraus like her -- none of them deserve to die but all of them are annoying as hell. Otherwise they can claim whatever and whos to say they are lying? But nonetheless I still feel Chris killed the children. The Watts family murders occurred in Frederick, Colorado, United States, during the early morning hours of August 13, 2018. Re, R113's : "Maybe he didn't want to be full-time parent.". And I still want to know more about the drugs in bins in their basement. And Shanann invites Josh and Cassie to live with them so Josh can get a job with Ace Hardware. r162 I wanna see those pics of "Shannan" posing as a bitch-ho next to the souped up thug rods. LEONARD does not believe that the divorce decree addressed the life insurance policies. I remember there was some anti-Lularore/MLM site that had stories of men divorcing their wives due to MLM debt. I'm not going to bother researching Colorado's rules. Husband Christopher Watts, 33, is being held without bail, and faces three counts of murder and three counts of interfering with evidence. Why would you bury your dead wife only a foot and a half underground? I need you to meet me halfway. What bank is giving a 20-something single woman making, what, $40k/year TOPS? Women like that can get him to do anything. Odd that when her marriage to King ran into trouble her behavior exactly mirrored that of Chris in the months before the murders: Not waning to engage in conversation, shutting down, withdrawing, physically distancing herself within the home, etc. He later admitted to killing their daughters, four-year-old Bella and three-year-old Celeste, by smothering them with a blanket over their heads. Makes me want to slap those agents silly. R59: Why is there a photo of a black woman and child on the shelf? I could see there being an inexplicable level of anger there that could explode inside Chris & make him snapand be crazy & cold as fuck with her, but two scared little girls? ^ to be fair, Trent Bolte has them all beat in the crazy department. We never had to go to the ER together. That was a detailed and well written article, R227; better than most others I have read about his new confession. They were large policies, $250k or $500k. In a new documentary from Netflix, newly revealed letters and texts show that Shanann had no idea that her marriage would soon turn deadly. He did not receive a warm welcome when he reunited with them in NC. I do agree that Kessinger had more involvement than she pretended. Chris kept going on and on about how attracted he was to her, even though the detectives had moved on and started questioning him about Shannan. Services are entrusted to Boles Funeral Home of Southern Pines. A 12 yo girl took it for one day and felt amazing! Men are just disposing of women like theyre garbage. Image from Facebook. Its the underlying current of this entire tragedy. 'I dont know what to think about this' Shanann wrote above the photo, adding two laughing-tears emojis. This YouTube channel has tons of Shan'ann's Facebook Live videos where she's blathering about those sketchy Thrive products. I have friends whose kids have asthma, and they do not have that sort of look. I cant come back like this. Chris clearly has the right to sue Le-Vel. Dirty South is a custom car shop. A Funeral Mass will be held 1PM on Saturday, September 1st 2018 at Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church in Pinehurst with Rev. RELATED:. And wondering how she could purchase the house on a retail managers salary. She had DOUBLE Munchausen's! "Her car is here but she's not at home. R109: if Shannnanon filed for divorce claiming adultry, pregnant with 2 children under 5, shell get what she wants. I dont know who he is, she texted a friend on Aug. 7, 2018. The cops never made her google searches public, but i am guessing she did a LOT of searches on her milquetoast co-workers, looking for just the right pigeon to pluck. He saw no way out of the disastrous mess ( bossy shrew wife with hypochondria, destroying them financially and alienating the children from him while destroying their characters). Considering the p.o.s. R118 Sorry. Days before she was murdered by her husband, 34-year-old Shanann Watts reached out to a friend and shared her growing concerns about her marriage -- but she never suspected she was in danger.. I dont have anything bad to say about her non-scam job at a call center in a childrens hospital. It was probably thousands of dollars in inventory combined with all that other crap they spent their money on. Didnt Shanann cheat on Leonard with the middle eastern guy at Dirty South he mentions? My assumption is that LK would like to stay as unconnected to this murder as he can. The family is survived by Shananns father, Frank Rzucek; Mother, Sandra Onorati Rzucek; Brother, Frankie Rzucek whom were inseparable and best friends; Uncle, Rocky Onorati; Aunt, Sharyn Onorati; Aunt, Robynn Odom; Uncle, Steve Onorati; and many nieces, nephews, cousins and close friends. Shannan did indeed feed Bella and CeCe Thrive K. Heres an inspiring video with comments to tell you how wonderful it was. Fact: Hisham was married and had children when Shanann worked there. LEONARD said that he was very interested in marriage counseling and they went to a couple sessions, but it was virtually impossible to engage SHANANN in conversation. Specially after they are both dead! LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN took out life insurance policies when they were married around 2004/2005 through USAA. Ty for that info, I'd read it previously but had forgotten most of it. HE is not getting this media-inspired bullshit. How much did Shanann have wrapped up in inventory? As reported by People, "Over the summer, Shanann [Watts . For the kind of woman Shannon was, she wouldnt have just given up on her two children even if Chris had left. He buried them at his place of work and left a bedsheet in the field. Easy to say in retrospect I suppose. What a shame that you cant gawk at a picture of murdered children that r116 thinks they look cuter in. LEONARD actually did not know SHANANNs last name until a few days ago. Walking away from his family would've left him (and then, obviously) far better off than where he is now. Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - (Speaking about their relationship)https://reachableshop.com/https://www.instagram.com/reachableshop/Before ShanannWatts married #ChrisWatts, She was previously married to Leonard T. King, an attorney who was formerly with Arthur M. Blue Law Offices, P.A. The video of Chris and family at Myrtle Beach has been now taken down from YouTube, as well as most of the videos put up courtesy of Plunder. I wondered why, on the initial Officer Coonrod bodycam videos, there was no furniture in the dining room. The 33-year-old pleaded guilty to killing his wife Shanann Watts and their children Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, in exchange for avoiding the death penalty as part of a plea deal. Police say the three victims were murdered in their home and later transported to the oil field. You live in Colorado and you dont go on hikes? LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN married in 2002/2003 and divorced in 2007/2008 in SC. I cant figure out how they got so deeply in debt AGAIN after the first bankruptcy. She was 25. Is Colorado NOT a no-fault divorce state? Chris is a total hottie, Shanan was a a lucky gal. L Lynda Pringle 2 followers More information Interview with Leonard King, Shan'ann Watts' Ex-Husband [47th Tranche] Fairy Garden Diy Ex Husbands True Crime Leonard Watts Interview Anne Family Quick More information . She was supposed to have left with the kids due to being upset. [quote]However, anyone who devotes MONTHS to harping on how annoying a dead woman was when she was alive, has all the screws loose. The community of Frederick, Colorado and the entire nation was horrified when Chris killed his entire family in August 2018. R163, I didnt say she was a prostitute; she was scamming, embezzling, laundering money. A concerned friend contacted law enforcement after learning of the murders of Shanann Watts and her two young daughter, relaying an unsettling anecdote Shanann had shared with her just weeks before she was killed. Why are some posters feel the need to say that the toddlers are "ugly". Ugh time to FF the troll who is obsessed with this sexy murderer. Shanann was still very good friends with her ex husbands mother too. Would you know my name if I saw you thriving in heaven? Chris did a lot to help around the house yes he was the father of the family. https://www.businessinsider.co.za/professions-with-the-most-psychopaths-2018-5?r=US&IR=T. He hasnt touched me all week, kissed me, talked to me except for when Im trying to figure out what is wrong, Shanann explained in another text. Janny Free please dont call them little monsters they died but the hand of their father, and Bella was such a sweet little girl, and CeCe was younger she was still in toddler stageShe was gonna grow out of itNo matter what happened between these adults they didnt deserve to die, and neither did Shanann RIP Shanann and your 3 Angels Bella Celeste Nico , Janny didnt call them little monsters she was repeating what Shanann called them in one of her videos . American Murder: The Family Next Door quickly brings viewers inside the world of the Watts family, thanks in a huge part to pictures, posts, and videos from Shanann Watts' social media pages.After introducing the mother of two and her family via clips of holidays and other family moments, the documentary drops a bombshell on viewers: In May of 2018, Shanann revealed to her husband, Chris Watts . My partner's half sister is like this. I truly hope a movie is made of her in an honest light. He admitted to that. He buried Shanann in a shallow grave near an oil-storage facility, and dumped his children's bodies into crude oil tanks. For anyone who hasn't read it here's his CBI interview copied/pasted directly from the Discovery: CBI Agent GALBRAITH interviewed LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018. So Shan'ann's Thrive income was and remains, a mystery. Unless the new lover is a threat to the kids or is causing financial ruin. I think he was planning to make it look like an accident, that Shanann Wayts came out looking for him, to confront him about his affair maybe. And he killed Cece right next to Bella in the backseat. Please click here to update your account with a username and password. The fact that the physician performing her autopsy found "no evidence of disease". Chris also said he couldnt talk to her, she wouldnt listen. Thank you all for this thread. That really upsets me. But you can see a pattern here, with Shanann Pouring herself into work and not being interested in any of the things he was up to. Some features on this site require registration. Most states are nowadays. Watts wife was 15 weeks pregnant. Okay. I find it very odd that he did not have girlfriends in high school and prior to meeting Shanann and that we never hear from any of them. Oh to be a remotely attractive straight white man. What a tragedy. SHANANN would stay gone, but he was never concerned that something happened to her.LEONARD knew that SHANANN first worked with cell phones when he met her. She was our pride and joy, a true gift from God. I'm a Frau who loves THRIVE! LEONARD had heard that SHANANN left her cell phone at home. See home details for 19398 Hathaway Ln and find similar homes for sale now in Warrensville Heights, OH on Trulia. So I put her parents in the same category as all of the other people and businesses she has conned. What are your theories? Chris Owns his dysfunctional behavior. Perhaps Chris thought that as well. ACTION TAKEN: CBI Agent GALBRAITH interviewed LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018. And to restate the obvious again - if you are married, make sure you have your own individual accounts. She wanted people to ask her, "How should I pronounce your name?" (ThePilot.com reports Leonard T. King, plaintiff vs. Shannon [sic] C. King, defendant in Moore County, North Carolina, Public Records - May 3, 2009)They had no children from their marriage together and have not communicated in over ten years he estimated. I doubt she sold that much Thrive! LEONARD had heard that SHANANN was really involved in Thrive. She was pretty smart with her lupus act, because, like fibromyalgia, it has broad diagnostic criteria that mostly depends on patient reporting. His facial expressions reveal that he's more complex than that. All his plans were thrown off track. Foolish and impulsive on her part, but not at all impossible at the time. She was trying to be cool and ethnic with the new spelling and pronounciation of her name. Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW. R141 Your boy was fucked with or without the nosy friend. He was interviewed by the CBI but he hasn't made any other public statements as far as I'm aware. Bella was born December 17, 2013 in Colorado. Anybody else feel this way? No wonder murder seemed like a reasonable option. More than a half year before their affair began. As an adult, your identity basics, like first name, are already established. Have you forgotten what he did to her and his own children? I believe the rumor that she was embezzling money, and thats how she got that first house. But wasnt he eligible for the GI Bill hmmmmm? Idk how that bitch is still getting TV interviews after the cops were likeyeah this is bullshit. That makes sense. A Funeral Mass will be held 1PM on Saturday, September 1st 2018 at Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church in Pinehurst with Rev. There was also a history of her old houses sale price. Those girls probably ate it all the time. Chris pleaded guilty to the crimes that . But the whole alienating and making people choose. I assure you i am not a moron. R150 But she was. He probably knew that already. Of course we can say nice things about her, too. Shananns behavior is not odd at all, in fact, its pretty much how people act when they no longer want to be with you. Nag, nag, nag. She would also get child support but its based on income and its possible, only possible, she was making more than he was. The hetero ladies who get their panties wet over a guy who murdered his wife and kids are creepy. And she wasnt flipping. Chris Watts. 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