Is it too late to respond to this? In her case it seems to be more a matter of punishment. It was flawed. #corrupt. Have you actually read the transcript of the trial?? If thats what you want then dont pretend its anything but. You are telling me to take my smugness elsewhere because it is tiresome. Im all for justice, reviewing facts and overturning corrupt decisions. A fact strongly denied by Diane and by the nurses reports. He has lived a life outside the public eye and hasn't ever come out to give interviews to the media about his ex-wife. A very reasonable request that was rejected. Q. It deserved as much attention as a Unicorn, a song or all the other hearsay floating around because at least, they came from real people signing official documents. A slightly humorous observation is that you said, and others have, that James Haynes physically resembled the sketch.. They rarely get a break. If you listen to the recording, Christie clearly says I dont know who did it. She was asleep, thats why. I especially loved reading everyones comments. Whenever your shoot a gun that many times and that close to the victims, theres going to be blood and powder residues. Inside, outside, top to bottom. Another conflict of interest. You cannot skip due process because of mob mentality. She was still trying to extricate herself from a bad relationship with Steve Downs and was in no hurry to repeat the mistake. Ms. Downs makes every effort to avoid emotional stimuli in order to reduce the demands made on her. Same with her brother. This test confirmed Diane had not held a gun. Page 40 of Case History. Like in their movies. If there is one thing Diane knew about her lover, is that he was fickle and did not like trouble of any kind. Everyone deserves peace. It does not contradict what I said, but what they said. Diane and her family fought for them but were blocked from day one. She is a monster and belongs in prison for the rest of her life. Bannon, a former adviser . Wednesday, March 1, 2023: Today on General Hospital, Obrecht is furious with both Liz and Scott, Finn offers to stand by Liz, and Sonny and Dex bond over a meal. I agree that the phone call from Angel was totally inappropriate. Steve Bannon won't be detained before trial on charges of contempt of Congress after he failed to comply with subpoenas from the House committee investigating January 6. This is a conflict of interest. My guess is the grandparents were so overwhelmed with Dianes case that they let the system take care of the kids at first. Blood spatter is not an exact science, and is interpreted differently by experts. The price of celebrity for her was losing her freedom and her children for life. The goal is always to keep family ties intact. 2 years in foster care waiting to be legally free for adoption is not that uncommon even today. A trial should be based on facts and solid direct or circumstantial evidence. Whether or not Mrs. Frederickson could have attacheda clinical lab to Dianes not being herself the day the Detectives pressured Diane to accompany them, the fact is Diane was clearly suffering the residual effects of that chemical poison in her system. Her father passed away in October 2017 after having fought relentlessly for her release. Mr. Downs must have had a bad feeling about Jagger because before trial: speculation There was never a real motive for the crime even if the State insisted that Diane wanted to be free to pursue her love interest; using her journals to support theirclaim. They hardly investigated any other lead after a couple of weeks. On May 19, 1983, Elizabeth Diane Downs and her three small children were shot on a country road near Springfield, Oregon. Not an easy situation for him as I would imagine. Thanks again. Every time, she said she did not know, they told her to think again and made suggestions. Do not forget that she got letters of support from a warden and psychiatrist. The gun is Def a big issue, the style of gun, whether it belonged to him or her, she Def had access to itthe child drew a picture of it, having large similarity to that gunbut it did always baffle me how she could find such a great hide for it in such a short period of time. Why didnt they mention that he said a bad man and whatever else in his condition when they knew it was not possible? I also found it interesting that when he had visited Diane in prison, he had remarked a strange air about her; which did not mean guilt. Of course. I lived through the media coverage. she chose to stay with Manson and his misfits. If Diane was bipolar, the non-stop chatter would have been inherent to the situation: bipolar wasnt a diagnosable condition at the time of her first trial. It was cited that she keeps her emotions close to the vest. There have been behaviors that in the general course of events one may expect from a single parent that in a way have been falsely interpreted as being some form of evil.. We talked about Steve's love of Marvel films and we joked about the staff knowing we were on a blind date because the waitress had . She waseighteen and soon realized that she had jumped from the fire into the frying pan. Mainly because she is being kept caged due to her name recognition at this point, not her offense. So should I put an addendum saying that Diane contradicted herself or was not satisfied with the sketch? They never tried to reunite them with family. But as usual, it was slanted in the worst possible way. Diane asked for proof that her ex husband was behind the shooting. But strangely, they took no photos of the crime scene and did not lift fingerprints from the drivers side of the car. The people who implemented lockdowns would never be anywhere near public policy again. ..it is quite possible if she was tried in todays world, with the evidence they hadquite possible it would of went differently we been living in a society that pretty much demand 100% pure forensic evidence proven. A long long time ago. Exactly Libby why did they say during the trial that he saw his mom? If you had commented on one of the elements contained in the blog, it might have been enlightening. In reply to Nick. It appears that you have to be a perfect mother with no lovers and not afflicted with any mental illness to be considered innocent until proven guilty in America. (Appendix 81, page 1466). According to Detective Welch, Steve Downs followed Diane to Oregon, they fought and Steves rage took the last step on the path hed been treading for a long time. The previous video you sent me shows a Jagger pretty animated and involved in the defense of his client. (LOL!! The scene described in Small Sacrifices with little Christie hooked up to a machine and her pulse accelerates because she is terrified ofher mother is doubtful and subject to interpretation. It gave Anne Rule carte blanche to legally use these labels in her book and it stuck. Devoting ur life to taking down a dead author is a waste of ur talents. View theaffidavits. And I care about the lack of evidence. She had no blood spatter or gun powder residue on her hands,clothing or hair. There is so much to say about this blog I wouldnt know where to start. Foote denied the motion and declared you have an attorney, use him.. Why arent you debating the faulty ballistics, and the fact that the gun they affirmed was used in the commission of the crime was not the right one? I lived in Eugene, Oregon for years. It gave Anne Rule carte blanche to legally use these labels in her book and it stuck. Two wrongs do not make a right but illustrates that she should have never been coerced before, during or after the trial. I think that the time she has served and her good behavior made her eligible for parole. They claimed to have found two lead cartridges in Dianes rifle at home that supposedly matched the ones used during the crime. The details about the gun missing, the daughters testimony and the fact that she had no blood or gun residues are facts. She was expelled and reunited with him against her parents wishes. Yes, like many Americans, I think that the US system is barbaric. Yes, dad relinquished his rights but he knew that they loved their grandparents and had allowed Diane to take them for a visit without telling the authorities. I also found it curious that when Diane was first eligible for parole she was allowed to apply every 2 years thereafter until she either gets paroled or dies in prison. She has come a long way. It probably makes you feel so good. I am not biased. This reminds me of what a jail counselor named Rachel Roth said at the trial of Debra Milke Its my opinion that this young woman has been judged in a way that signifies something to do with how we view women in our society. But I am realistic. Ann Rule has always been sensationalist, and her books were almost unreadable at the end of her publishing days. But the fact that the prosecutor called her a deviant sociopath in court without any assessment became another nail in her coffin. According to Diane, she then saw a man on the road flagging her and stopped thinking he needed help. And if she did it, she has served her time without displaying any violent tendencies whatsoever. Most importantly why would anybody shoot 3 children potentially fatally and leave the adult with a wound in her arm. TIL On May 19, 1983, Diane Downs shot her three children and drove them at 5-7 mph to the hospital. It is not, nor should be, a Conflict of Interest for a caring adult to Foster one or more siblings. And yes, its your site, but dont act like a site is open for discussion if its not. In reality,the whole caseturned out to beno small sacrifice for Diane Downs, but it was a huge victory for the State, the media anda very lucrative deal for theQueen of crime fiction herself; Ann Rule. I am not sure. She even became a surrogate mother to make money and provide two parents the opportunity to have a child. The blog tries to bring balance and more objectivity to a case that was TOTALLY one sided and still is. This case certainly had its share of circumstantial evidence. I watched the paroles hearing in 08, was lucky to find it, it was streamed live at the timemy sister, who is a whiz with computers, found it for me. I base a lot on what I see and hear from her in her own words in footage of a 28 yr old woman. In case you did not read the blog: During Dianes examination at trial, Fred Hugi said in front of the jury, in the form of a question, that she had been diagnosed as a deviant sociopath. If, as Proctor said, it was exchanged right away, and the other Ruger was subsequently stolen by Steven, how was it remotely possible for him to have this info? Without the media blast and rush to judgment from the police and DAs office, we might have uncovered the truth. So the hell with no gun, no GSR, no blood and no witnesses except a sick child who denied knowing who shot them until she could not anymore and happened to be adopted by the prosecutor; making it look like she could never change her mind and reveal that she has no memory of the shooting and maybe have the case reversed. No. We dont know what the Hugi family was doing during this time, probably seeing the kids regularly and getting licensed and approved to take the kids home with them. If you read the blog, it is because of the lie told by prosecutor Hugi that ignored the assessment of her therapist Dr. Jamison and was condemned by the psychiatrist that they were convinced to find her guilty. I dont care what Diane Downs says at the parole board hearing, except if she is innocent or guilty. Her 7-year old daughter Cheryl died but her 3-year old son Danny and her 8-year old daughter Christie survived. Whether or not Steve Downs was in some way behind the shooting, the man who fired the weapon was a stranger to Diane. If you had, you would clearly know that I do not claim her guilt or innocence. Otherwise you just want people to fill your echo chamber that agree with you, tell anyone else you obviously dont want to debate me.., then ban, then hope for people to agree. I read the letter they sent to the Downs when they were fighting to see their grandchildren. 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