Regarding the SA: I dont believe the bottle incident, that doesnt make sense at all. She cant choose not to particulate. I also believe his version of the story of the headbutt (she was hitting him, he grabbed her flailing arms and accidentally head butted her) although, I believe amber in that he probably head butted her a lot harder than he claims, which did leave bruises. Sometimes I wonder if Im watching clips from a different trial than everyone else, because from what Ive seen, both of these people seem toxic AF. Seems like ah has a glass of wine in her hand anytime that she's not on camera? I dont think I could have stayed calm enough after someone severed my finger to not physically respond back. I agree we are conditioned to believe her not him. Genuinely dont think he was innocent but also feel based in the evidence that he was being reactive. "Him looking down most of the time was concerning. ''It's really hard to know what is authentic and what is an act. Depp is suing Heard for libel in Fairfax County Circuit Court in the US after she wrote an op-ed piece in The Washington Post referring to herself as a public figure representing domestic abuse. They first met on the set of the film. Why would he in the same message where he says all of that about her also include a lie about cutting his own finger to protect her? Even die hard JD fans should give a minute to think about this one. (@WinkiesWord) January 13, 2022. As many have pointed out, however, none of this should come as news to anyone seeing as Amber Heard said Johnny Depp abused Amber Heard last year. the evidence points to her being a fat liar. Maybe because the Internet has decided that Depp has already won this trial. As has Chris Rock, who said onstage last week that yes, we should "believe all women, just not Amber Heard." Wow.. "I have been told abusers stare at victims in court," Nazir wrote. But she did. "I believe her because of my careful assessment of this case, and my very extensive understanding of what DA is like, what it involves, & how perpetrators & survivors think, behave and react. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. She seems extremely manipulative. Content copyright Journal Media Ltd. 2023 Registered in Dublin, registration number: Please specify a reason for deleting this reply from the community. The mother of his children, Winona Ryder, Kate Moss ect.. All concluded he was not an abusive man. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. You wouldnt want to hire an actor who has negativity following them especially in the last five years, with the Me Too movement.. I'm not buying the cavity search story especially after Raquel Pennington told a completely different story about the Hicksville campfire. Talk about mockery. They should be focused on helping themselves rather than pointing the finger at each other. He added that right now, the pinnacle of negativity in the filmmaking business is being accused of domestic abuse, sexual abuse, violence and what weve seen is almost immediately terminations and cancellations. Honestly though they are both actors. Here is the message. They loved sober JD. All the essentials: top fashion stories, editors picks, and celebrity style. Kaur commented. Johnny Depp and Amber Heard's ongoing trial is now concluding its fourth week. I havent been following much, but from what I have seen it sounds to me like he was pushed into reactive abuse. He said the column damaged Mr Depp and created a cancel situation, if you will. Depp's refusal to look at his ex-wife during her testimony sparked spirited debate among each of the stars' supporters on Twitter, as they shared their opinions on the matter. Heres how they summed it up, and note that it didnt include anything about actress Amber Heard: The statement begins with them telling readers that they have felt the squeeze and changes of these transformational times, and that they are parting ways in marriage. They assure fans the love between them carries on, evolving in ways it wishes to be known and lived. Domestic violence experts say these reactions can be triggering for survivors of abuse.. There is none. We shouldnt expect them to behave like perfect victims nor should we demonise them for staying in a relationship or not fighting back. Just that language alone is highly disturbing and should have you think what is in the heart of a person who uses such language. All rights reserved. These are all awfully specific, humiliating details, and they only bolster Heards credibility. she's a nut. ! pic.twitter.com/EsRFT4PA2M, Jen (@No_Reason_Jenz) January 13, 2022. He added that companies are looking for added value, not negativity, noting that a film star becomes the face of a franchise they appear in. If you or someone you know is impacted by sexual assault, domestic or family violence, call 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 or visit 1800RESPECT.org.au. Though if Amber Heard is to blame, so too is Jason Momoa since it would also be his decision overall to end his marriage with Lisa Bonet. Didnt Winona hired a lawyer to block her statement to be used in favor of JD? Irish sport images provided by Inpho Photography Some of the messages were: Call Carly Simon, she said it better, babe, because his past relationships have all said that he was not abusive. Mr Marks said Ms Heard was calling out Hollywood to take action, and that the publicity machine was in high gear as the column was published around the release of her film Aquaman. This is a morally grey case, and Amber Heard is a millionaire, she'll be fine. While Heard didn't name Depp in the article, his lawyers have argued that it was obvious she was referring to the actor. Based on what I've seen of the trial, I think Amber Heard is very much the aggressor. Legal documents obtained by People Magazine show that Depps former managers at TMG were aware of the actor having gotten physical with Amber Heard. I'm inclined to sympathize with Depp. "Hear people that I knewsome well, some notmy ex-husband with whom I shared a life, speak about our lives in the way that they have.". "His behavior will be observed. I haven't really followed it much, but tend to believe him. Depp and Heard met on the set of the 2011 film The Rum Diary and married in 2015. Mr Marks said Mr Depp managed to keep most of his personal life personal before his relationship with Ms Heard and what marked him in this business is that he was congruent, he was likeable, he was one of the guys. They bring gifts hell never open. Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged in, Richard Marks says family-friendly companies like Disney are the pinnacle of sensitivity, Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile, Watch live as Johnny Depps trial against Amber Heard continues. I tend to think if he never got violent in 20 years, it seems unlikely to all of a sudden become violent. The 2018 article does not mention Depp by name. Johnny, an addict, looks for the coke and trashes the room in the process. She was celebrating her birthday with a bunch of friends, Im sure they were all wasted. Richard Marks says 'family-friendly companies like Disney' are the 'pinnacle' of . Both have stated that they dont believe men are victims of abusive women, that the man always has the power in the relationship and therefore its their own fault if they are harmed by their victim. Both have also said that even if Amber is lying, anyone who supports Depp is a misogynist. He said the pinnacle of sensitivity against this can be found in family-friendly companies like Disney. So he testified that after he severed a finger to the bone (she says he did it, he says she did it) and with blood from the severed finger he wrote messages on walls, mirrors and lampshades. Next: I also believe there was physical abuse. Photo: ELIZABETH FRANTZ/POOL/AFP via Getty Images Last week, Amber Heard took the stand in her ongoing defamation trial. ", Listening Amber Heard's testimony. the bruises? An American psychologist has revealed in a no-holds-barred interview why she doesn't believe Amber Heard's court testimony. Thanx. Fighting for Heard is going to set back feminism just as much as this case already has, I guarantee you. Depp had to reveal a lot of things about himself that hes been trying to hide for a long time, she said. They both sucked. While Depp had repeatedly denied ever having been violent to Heard during the three-week trial in London, a judge found that The Sun's claims that the Kentucky-born actor was abusive to Heard were "substantially true.". Heard accused Depp of domestic abuse during their divorce proceedings in 2016. She decided to be vindictive and take their shit public. I dont understand how anyone can support either of these people. Lawrence said Heards first day of testimony sounded rehearsed. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Press J to jump to the feed. But I am genuinely in good faith surprised that this is not the consensus, so perhaps Im missing something. she would do drugs and surround him with people would encouraged him to do drugs. Either Pennington wasn't there at all and is lying, or Heard is completely making up the part about Johnny grabbing a woman by the wrist and threatening to snap it. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The Johnny Depp-Amber Heard Trial Is Not as Complicated as You May Think The entirety of the case rests on twelve words. Depp, who was dropped from the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise in 2018, was "asked to resign" from Fantastic Beasts 3 following the 2020 verdict. I just listened to a few mins. Eastern Eye columnist Asjad Nazir shared side-by-side shots of Heard and Depp in court to illustrate his suggestion that Depp's behavior was the result of past abuse. When Heard . I think he has way more solid evidence of abuse from amber heard than she has to use against him. You fisted her looking for drugs and dangled your dogs out of the window of moving vehicles. So we got to see the contrast between the things that were rehearsed and the things she just knew.. On Twitter user stated: "what johnny depp is doing in court right now is admirable. By continuing to browse, you agree to the use of cookies. After Depp allegedly threw a cellphone at her face, striking her in the eye, the 30-year-old actress filed for divorce. I didn't think anyone would believe me. Amber Heard and Johnny Depp are back in court in Fairfax County, Virginia. Note that once you confirm, this action cannot be undone. We strive to provide you with a high quality community experience. Amber Heard Blamed For The End Of Jason Momoa's Marriage byJacob Dressler January 16, 2022 It's recently been announced that actor Jason Momoa has ended his marriage with Lisa Bonet. So that commenced in a lot of pettiness. Johnny Depp accused of sexual violence against Amber Heard in bombshell new evidence, Never know: Jadas revealing Instagram post after Will Smith slap, Ed Sheeran announces wifes shock diagnosis, Harry and Meghan respond to cruel eviction from King Charles, Fans go wild for tiny detail in latest Kate appearance: Wow, Bindi and Robert Irwin share hilarious blooper reel from Australia Zoo, King Charles evicts Harry & Meghan from Frogmore Cottage, Heath Ledgers daughter Matilda, 17, is his spitting image in rare sighting, Fans react after Justin Bieber cancels Australian leg of Justice world tour. Some of it warranted, some of it not. While watching the trial, various individuals took to social media to report that Amber's deposition felt and sounded oddly familiar. Jason Momoa & Lisa Bonnet are divorcing. But I never called. Its time to believe Heard. I found him *somewhat* believable and I find her believable. While Mr Marks said he didnt know of any, he went on to speculate, I assume Amber Heard thought her career would get better by bringing this out. And people are just glossing over it I am confused. When he ran out of blood, apparently he also dipped the severed finger in paint to continue writing. Some people do. Tangentially, The idea that depp would only bring forth a suit he knew he could win is directly contradicted by the fact that he did this exact think in the uk and lost. They were mean, codependent. The memes have been ferocious, sometimes consisting of a spot-the-difference comparison with domestic-abuse victims; at other times, televised courtroom footage has been appropriated to openly mock her appearance. An American psychologist has revealed in a no-holds-barred interview why she doesnt believe Amber Heards court testimony. Through his lawyers, he accused Heard of trying to extend her fifteen minutes of fame. Mandel was also later informed that Depp had violently kicked Heard during an incident that took place in or around 2014. The actor first looked to be wearing sunglasses and kept his eyes on the table in front of him, avoiding watching Heard. The Atmospheres and Architectures of Cerith Wyn Evans. She said she asked him about a tattoo on his arm that looked like black marks. including someone who is wearing the rings Johnny wears they would cause marks & both have testified he wore them all the time, except the images of her face and bruises do not measure up one bit to being repeatedly hit and choked by a man larger than her. While Mr Depp isnt named in the piece, his legal team argues that it contains a clear implication that Mr Depp is a domestic abuser, which they say is categorically and demonstrably false. Johnny Depp is seeking damages of $50 million after Amber Heard wrote an op-ed for The Washington Post in 2018 in which she spoke of being a victim of domestic abuse (without ever explicitly naming Depp). Yet while Blasey Ford became an immediate cause clbre, a truth-to-misogynist-power meme, a metric of liberal feminist bona fides, Amber Heard has become a punch line. "I thought Amber Heard testified as well as she could," said Grant. I dont want to despair for humanity. And he used to be in my top 5 actors I would have loved to ***. Hes no shy, poor guy here. juviderm. Press J to jump to the feed. The two were together for 16 years, which means their divorce might come as something of a shock. It also doesnt seem as though anyone else was involved with the breakup. If it were him on those recordings saying I didnt punch you I slapped you. I dont know. Heres what fans are saying on social media: SUSPICIOUS! The pictures she claims to have were not turned over to Depp's attorneys with the meta data so that they could be verified. Its not going to be rehearsed, Lawrence said. ok, well he also sounded like an actor. In a statement prior to the trial, Heard said she hoped that after its conclusion, I can move on and so can Johnny.. Go on social media, and the anti-Heard sentiment is palpable. She is now facing the consequences for that. a place for discussion surrounding the current civil trial between johnny depp and amber heard, moderated in an unbiased manner. Unless she just didn't see anything wrong with it.I suppose she could have made a decision to get sober with him but I heard none of that kind of support. I think the whole relationship was toxic, on both sides, but I dont believe most of what she says. they like him because hes a popular, power multimillionaire who is also a man. . Doesn't look right to me. Group Black's collective includes Essence, The Shade Room and Naturally Curly. They both had issues. Does it mean shes lying about Depps abuse? LAST YEAR, AMBER Heard filed for divorce from actor Johnny Depp and subsequently filed a domestic violence restraining order against him. I would like to add that i think amber enabled his substance abuse. Heres my take: I think they were in an abusive and toxic relationship. He refuses to look at her. . Seems like they both were physically and mentally abusive. Youve seen detective shows where they do that, but it actually is a big deal when somebody is trying to communicate. it is majority women, Law & Crime reporter Jesse Weber told Mediaite. Im sure he probably was abusive in some way by being reactive. There is this biphobia belief that bi people will cheat on you and enjoy threesomes. When? Just Ambers word and a photo of her with a pimple. I do believe Johnny is downplaying the severity of their fights, and I do believe amber is embellishing the shit out of them. Actor Amber Heard is facing her former husband Johnny Depp in a defamation trial in the US. The turd curse has struck again! You can change your settings or. We are so proud of you for being able to get through her testimony. You listen to your wife. His die hard fans argue that he wanted to protect her by saying it was him, but just look at this message. does not make logical sense. The bottle story is an obvious lie. I dont think it was as violent as she describes, but I can also see it happening with different details. Unable to find it he searches ambers body. Please select a reason for escalating this post to the WTE moderators: Connect with our community members by starting a discussion. We all understand that Depp fans will side with Depp. hammering Heard over her promise to donate her divorce settlement to charities, donations not yet fulfilled. He added that Ms Heards op-ed was published in a flagship journal, if you will, of American news, not a trade paper or a rag. I believe her.I believe her because of my careful assessment of this case, and my very extensive understanding of what DA is like, what it involves, & how perpetrators & survivors think, behave and react.https://t.co/RP4apBrpAU via @BBCNews. . I'm also glad you mentioned the homo/transphobia. Always. Theyre accused of deliberately trying to destroy a mans life with false accusations. i am sick to my stomach watching from home, can't imagine how he must be feeling.". And if after everything that has been presented in this trial (not to mention the UK trial where JD lost as the judge found that he was the abuser in that relationship - about 130 pages of court decision with evidences presented are available online), then yes I think that about everyone who supports him and also everyone who goes with well both of them abused narrative. 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