Yes, I was that excited. Many of the women they're aroundother than the reasonably stable ones like their wives and mothersare groupies. SAGAL: The job of the NFL sideline reporter is three parts glamour, four parts grit and 10 parts fending off the advances of a randy Hall of Fame quarterback. Was I stared at? But I must tell you, I find that being a reporter is so much easier than being a fan. The exchange between Newton and Rodrigue rightfully spurred a much needed discussion about women and sports journalism, so I decided to ask three former NFL players to speak candidly about their views on women reporters. It was walking into the football locker room at the University of Texas in Austin and having a large man with burnt-orange pants and dark white face pick me up by my underarms and deposit me outside the door. The next day, another player told Eskenazi it was a joke. Several were guys who had been my superiors at one time or another and were just so gushing with their praise. And I have shared that with very few people. The interview format is believed to have been popularized around mid-century by Dick Young, a New York Daily News sportswriter. So while I'm asking him about his family's strawberry farm, I'm wondering if eggs have given him this nice, shiny coat or if he uses his wife's conditioner, and if so, what is it? Or at least made me feel that way. If my mom made us go to Wyatt's for supper, my father would wear his primitive Walkman through the serving line, once scaring the meat lady by hollering, "Dadgum Toby Harrah!" Point guards became my instant favorites for those early post-shower interviews. I noted being in the middle of the room when a player came out of the shower, spotted me, and turned around and went back in. It's a place for changing attire and accessing personal belonging. Calvin Russell. Back then, almost 30 years ago, passion for the national pastime was an heirloom fathers passed to their sons. A female reporter conducts post-game interviews with members of a men's soccer team in the locker room. I'd actually never been in an NBA locker room until last winter. By that time I had moved east to cover the Phillies. That did it; now they were ready to call the police. Get browser notifications for breaking news, live events, and exclusive reporting. I was quite confused. Once you have a live camera or microphone in front of you, youre a different person, says Eskenazi, who covered a variety of sports over his long career. The other was a first-person piece about the last game at Arlington Stadium. He said he would have me thrown out physically. better do it.. [10], After the incident became public, Olson was subjected to harassment by fans of the Patriots. It was when all the guys were inside doing interviews, and I was standing in the rain, makeup peeling, outside the high school locker room at Fort Worth's Farrington Field, waiting beneath the six-foot-long "No Women" sign for the players to come to the doorway. 1. percykins 7 yr. ago. So you're a female reporter, you are allowed inside the NFL locker room, you're a pioneer, but there's still places out there, Michele, where they believe in cooties. [4] In 1985, the NFL enacted an equal access policy of its own. "The Texas APME awards are out," he said. 2 min read Independent media will not have access to locker rooms during the upcoming NFL. I was 22 years old and the first woman ever to cover sports for the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. I can't understand the idiots who call the sports department and want to talk to a man on the phone instead of meor some guy who goes out of his way to spit Niblets on me. Herman, though, found herself a part of a much larger moment, a wider-ranging battle for equality in the workplace for women. And there was Reggie, in nothing but sanitary socks. SAGAL: Michele Tafoya is the Emmy Award winning reporter for NBC's "Sunday Night Football," but she's spent time on basketball courts, softball diamonds, gymnastic mats and now public radio quiz show "Game Grids." Get two questions right, and you win our prize. Keep your eyes on your own work Super Chief. [6] Sullivan observed Olson and determined that she was acting professionally, interviewing Maurice Hurst, but took no other action. Its my fault, Walsh said, his eyes still glistening. He got an apology from the Hyatt; I got suspected of prostitution while waiting in a hotel lobby for Grant Teaff. Api. I told him. During my first four years at the Star-Telegram I took one day off to model at an auto show and five days off to get married. I think how cool it is to watch a stadium yawn to life. They see how (or if) players interact; get some idea as to who's happy, who's not, and maybe find out why or why not. But of course that wasnt the case. Referring to the United States military's use of Patriot missiles during the then-ongoing Gulf War, Kiam said to the audience: "What do the Iraqis have in common with Lisa Olson? Industrial-size hampers, home to growing mounds of moist practice jerseys, sit on each side of the cramped chamber in its Syosset, New York, training facility. She was previously a sports columnist for the New York Daily News, and the first female sports columnist for the Sydney Morning Herald, where she covered rugby union, Australian rules football, cricket and rugby league. Melissa Ludtke was 26 years old when all this took place. So do you know about sports?" I kept saying, Im not the story; the game is the story,' Herman said, reflecting on the night. The old Never let them see you sweat adage was thrown out the window and I was dripping angst from my brow. I walked over to the corner where two guys from my hometown had their lockers. God, I can't believe someone didn't warn me, I thought. This blogs regular features, including live game analysis, reader discussion, news and notes from Jeff Z. Klein and others, can now be found on the Hockey section front. At first, I thought he meant on the job. SAGAL: So how did you get into the - how did you - I mean, I'm going to guess SAGAL: that it's harder for a woman to get into major league professional sports reporting than it is for a man. It's not a place for socialising. Briggs first said women journalists should be barred from locker rooms during an interview with Peggy Kusinski of NBCChicago.com on Wednesday, the same day the NFL issued a memo that said women . But the reality was, a newspaper did not have space for the words or freedom on the finer nuances of body-part language. In the arbitrary world of newspaper politics, the arrival of a new sports editor breathed life into my career. Or go back to feature writing. It seems in those years I was the only writer who could converse with Julio Franco and Brian Downing. I think you'd need to show that male reporters are not allowed into female locker rooms to show a double standard. And while most nudity is off-camera and doesnt find its way to audiences, the shirtless, disheveled, or still-sweating sports star, facing an array of microphones in front of his cubby, has become an enduring image in sports coverage. So you've got all these big-haired babes who think the electoral college is a beauty school, ready to hoist their miniskirts for the first athlete who comes along. It was mostly worn, ectoplasm-green indoor-outdoor carpetingand stares. The authoritative record of NPRs programming is the audio record. Players tear off equipment at wooden cubbies bearing their names and numbers, laughing about how Mel Gibson got ribbed at the Golden Globes. So everyone's kind of shuffling around. Covering major league baseball fulltime is my goal. Copyright 2023 CBS Interactive Inc. All rights reserved. Many dressing rooms dont have such modicums of privacy, leaving players in the buff in front of reporters fishing for quotes. SAGAL: I got to ask you about the locker room. Readmore, With the 65th overall pick, the Rangers chose Adam Tambellini, a 6-foot-2 center whose father and brother each played for the Islanders. I won't even look in their eyes. You take a right turn before you have to walk straight into the naked men and the soap. I was a common sight in and around the Rangers digs in those days, so it was no longer like I was some rookie, afraid to speak my mind. Not just people while Im pulling my pants up. But this was something else. I was close to giving up. [6] Several of the players subsequently taunted her by walking naked in her presence, making vulgar comments and gestures. As one of the first female reporters to be allowed inside the NFL locker room, she has been a pioneer in her field. We drove to a mall in Santa Fe, and there were the boxes, taped, freshly shipped, in the front of the store. I had offered the story first to my sports editor, Mike Perry (standard newspaper policy). Maybe I'd never fit in. They picked threeCindy, because she was a perky cheerleader at the University of Texas at Arlington; Jamie, because she had modeling experience; and me, because I was a pest. The immediate response is curiosity: Do I get to go in the locker room? Its all weve ever known, right wing Josh Bailey, wearing a blue Islanders shirt, skin-tight compression shorts, and knee-high athletic socks, told me after a practice last week. Mowatt walked up to her while he was nude and fondled his genitals as she was interviewing a teammate. He said this about three times. Teams and leagues barred female reporters from locker rooms over the following decades, robbing them of an increasingly important access point for player interviews. SAGAL: Because I remember - this was now going back 20 years ago maybe SAGAL: when the first female reporters were working major sports, and they wanted to go into the locker room and do the same damn interviews that their male counterparts were doing. For instance, there are things I might say to a friend or even a casual coworker that I wouldn't think a thing about, but I stop short of saying such things to the players. Why? For most of the guys who hang around for more than three dates, my job suddenly becomes a problem. "You know," I thought, "I doubt if any of them read the Observer.". I fully expected trouble. Readmore, The Devils took Anthony Brodeur, an 18-year-old goalie, with the 208th pick of the 211-pick draft, sending their seventh-round pick in 2015 to the Kings in exchange for the chance to pick Brodeur. Should they be banned from locker rooms? The only way a female reporter can do her job in a locker room is if the players don't look at her as a chick. SAGAL: Now, why is that because being a reporter seems like a hard job? He joked, he smiled, and he was a great first for me. You get a really honest reaction, and thats what makes stories good. We laughed and remembered when Desmond Reed finally scored a touchdown and he lit up telling me, I couldnt even enjoy it. If I ever dread talking to players now, it is not because I feel that I don't belong there. At first glance, it wasnt bad. (AP Photo/Dave Pickoff) How could it be that it was 43 years ago when Sports Illustrated reporter Melissa Ludtke and Time Inc., sued Major League Baseball for denying her access to the clubhouses at Yankee Stadium? I wasn't afraid of naked men. The executive types weren't too hot on the idea. I admit, some days even the UPS guy looks awful good. ' Herman said. She was previously a sports columnist for the New York Daily News, and the If female journalists are allowed into male locker rooms, then either male journalists should be allowed in female locker rooms or female journalists should not be allowed into male locker rooms. We both approached the front desk, where the clerk sided with the guard, saying I could remain for 10 more minutes, but only if I stayed out of the central lobby and remained "mobile." She impressed her supervisors, and the paper hired her as a paid sports journalist. Because of my vantage point, it appeared I would have to walk through the shower, through the four wet, naked men, to get to the actual locker-room area. Am I right? Those memories dont come cheap, of course. All of my male media brethren went cruising into this sacred place, and then, there was only methe lone female reporter covering a USC football gamewaiting outside. I was trying to work and didn't feel I had the time for petty bullshit. Buying ball tickets to as many games as my dad and I wanted to see was out of the question, so we climbed the wall in the late innings or sat in those free grassy spots behind the Cyclone fence. I don't have a radio talk show yet, but I now make my living writing about sportsat the moment, mostly the Texas Rangers. He said he wanted to talk. 2011 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved. Phyllis George Brown, a former Miss America winner and the first female sportscaster to work at a major network, died on Thursday after complications from a blood disorder she had developed. When men gather at bars and golf courses and any of the other traditional salt licks for male bonding, do they ask the gynecologist what Mrs. Holcombe's hooters look like? Oh sure, they may actually think I'm an idiot. They said they weren't selling those yet because they hadn't been tagged. I told the PR guy that I sure hated to bring this up, but there was no place for the way this guy was acting. Here's your last question. from The following year, a federal judge struck down the MLB policy on 14th Amendment grounds. The latter are supposed to be more humorous than the former, though adulthood has taught me different. or "You haven't written any good stones in the last month. Apparently a guy has to be awfully secure not to be intimidated by my frequent trips into locker rooms (as though I'm doing comparative shopping) or by my knowing a good bit about sports. I have one of the few jobs where the first thing people ask about is penises. In 1973 she was hired as the New York Times' first female sports reporter. Players mostly accept that strangers will see them au naturel. I didn't give it a whole lot of thought as I went into the office that day. They've both seen Patriot missiles up close." Ms. Olson was reporting on the New England Patriots in 1990 when she was sexually harassed in the locker room. One of the most sickening feelings I get is when I have to go interview some pitcher who's been shelled or some guy who is struggling at the free throw line or a coach who is on the verge of not being a coach. Forty years ago today, "Sports Illustrated" and its reporter Melissa Ludtke took on Major League Baseball and won. Gayle had heard the Fort Worth Star-Telegram higher-ups had had a meeting that morning regarding my continuedor discontinuedemployment. He remembered my chatting him up at lunch on Media Day, when I sat next to him and Brian Cushing and asked why the punt coverage was so porous with players not staying in their lanes, and how he was going to improve his turn over margin. She has also authored six books and was the first Texas Rangers ball girl. She was drawn back into the controversy as other sports faced their women-in-the-locker-room moments most famously in the court case brought by Sports Illustrated so the reporter Melissa And what if someone saw me in this state of trepidation? ", He started yelling again in this really high voice. Career ladders are never cushy for anybody, man or woman, unless of course your dad is president of GM or GE or whatever Nation's Bank is called this week. SALIE: Do you have a minute for me, coach? The repetitiveness and intensity of the format can be more frustrating. (I'm serious, they really ask this. Robin Herman, a gender barrier-breaking reporter for The New York Times who was the first female journalist to interview players in the locker room after an NHL game, has died. / CBS News. Readmore, The Islanders sent Nino Niederreiter to Minnesota for Cal Clutterbuck, and took defenseman Ryan Pulock with the 15th over all pick in Sundays N.H.L. Not sports writing, but the best of every column written in the state that year. As I stood outside the locker room, it hit me like a lightning boltwait a minute, Bill Plaschke was in there getting killer quotes and I wasnt! You can't do this without asking about their dogs and their mom and what bugs them even worse than dropping the soap in the shower. SAGAL: What's the worst reaction you've ever gotten in that situation? locker room was a story. 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