Ill always be grateful for the time I spent at the Language Training Mission. This sub is dedicated to faithful discourse on church topics. At the end of my six weeks, I may not have been fluent in Spanish, but I was confident in my little Spanish that I did know and in my ability to learn a language. Sharing the Gospel Online. Here are survey responses from France ParisRMs, to give you a snapshot into what its like to live in the mission. (Paul), France felt like home and still does. My advice is to rely with all your heart on the Lord and you will make it. I didnt feel overwhelmed until I got out in the field. It was a dangerous part of town, but we were just going to the train. The designs on mission t-shirts may also be printed on other LDS mission gifts, including: France Parismissionary aprons, Christmas stockings, ties, pillow cases, teddy bears and Christmas ornaments. Language training programs for missionaries began 50 years ago in 1969. (Drew), While serving in Lorient, France in the spring of 2001, we were surprised to find the entire center of town and a 1 km radius around it under evacuation orders because a construction crew had discovered an unexploded bomb from WWII buried beneath the ruins of an old bunker that was being demolished in an expansion project for the local stadium (Lorient had been an Allied port and submarine base during the war). (Jeffrey), France is a beautiful country. I learned how to better serve. (Jordan), More confidence in myself. Knowing that you gave your best and you know the truth now. Other franciphone missions are Tahiti, Quebec, Haiti, Switzerland, and temple square. Dont hold yourself back. And it wasnt my doingI got to see the Elders baptisms, taught some that others found, found some that others taught, sang or performed at many others, fellowshipped or attended classes with other missionaries investigators and taught many recent converts. (Kale), The Moloroff (speed record of 6:15). My best reasoning is that however we got here as we are now (Big Bang or whatever), we are here. (Roberto), My dad served in the Franco-Belge Mission 20 years earlier. But he followed me and came straight up to me with scissors and took off a few inches of a chunk of my long red hair and scurried away. (Alex), Saint-Quentin, Brussels, Saint-Ouen. This led me in Patience to realize that, Have a good attitude. I remember when I buckled down on my mission, and really devoted energy to speaking, reading, and writing, how I was blessed for my efforts and how my ability to remember and retain vocabulary multiplied, and my language abilities really improved. I had eleven companions, all told. I spent most of my time talking to the young children and toddlers in the branch. (Jacob), A stronger testimony of the Gospel. I want to live in a place like this. My nervousness changed to joy, and we kept walking along the road, talking to everyone that came close. In Europe (and especially Paris), people wear skinnier suits/pants/shirts, so youll want to either buy these beforehand or be prepared to buy them when you arrive. Even though I am home now, I still use my Spanish almost every day and am still learning. He was quite disheveled, and asked if he should dress up a little we said, if you want to! I developed a love of linguistics which has indeed carried over into my professional career as a game artist, especially when working in iconography for user-interface design. People skills. I understand what is important. (Merrilyn), Our mission extended from Paris to Tarbes and Pau. (Dennis), Rainy, humid, great sunny days, too. They were all so kind and friendly. The Roberts Hotel in downtown Provo was the first residence hall for missionaries. Heres a link to the mission map for the ParisMission (LDS). (Kale), Confidence, teaching experience, fearlessness, stronger faith, humility, much greater trust in the Lord, and an understanding of our place in his plan, better self image, empathy(Mariah), How to speak French. She was overjoyed when we caught up with her! At the end of my mission I was speaking fluently and English was the hard language. Amazing member missionaries, amazing examples. (Jeffrey), Depends on what part of the county youre in. It was hard and exciting at the same time. (Doug), Getting stuck in metro doors. France Paris Mission. (Doug), Congratulated a person for having been robbed. More trust in the Lord. The LDS Church in French Polynesia was founded in 1843 as the first foreign-language mission of the church. Mainly, Portuguese-speaking missionaries lived in Allen Hall until 1976. This is the caption information found on the frame plaque accompanying this photo, one of nearly a dozen historical photos showing the development of the Language Training Mission and Missionary Training Center facilities in Provo since the 1960s. Very little snow (winter in Orleans). Even today, Im able to remember specific parts of the discussions that have helped me in speaking or teaching situations explain gospel topics. We also were supposed to memorize dozens of scriptures that went along with the discussions that we were learning. (Merrilyn), Learn how to provide good reasons to believe in God without resorting to Bible/Book of Mormon/Prayer (which are all great ways to learn of God but some/most people need a logical reason to believe in a Higher Power at all. It was written by a prophet named Mormon and translated by Joseph Smith under the direction of our Heavenly Father. I felt the Spirit very strongly as I was able to answer Yes. There were a few people at the median when we got there, so naturally we started talking to them. (Nicholai), Talked to strangers. It was a good preparation for heading to Argentina, where it took me an additional two months to actually speak to the natives fluently enough for them to understand me. Believe that everything will work out and dont worry so much. (Michael), Anytime you get to pray with someone or bear your testimony of the Savior is an incredibly spiritual experience! Many of the things I learned from trying to get the award helped me to understand the gospel better. We used some word plays with English words that when put together sounded like French phrases. Study skills. (Anna), A lady answered the door in a robe and looked directly into my eyes and said, You have beautiful eyes. (Matt), Too many to count. Well, us Canadians (me) did not have a clue how wild the American missionaries would be. Blessings continue to flow from service. The people are amazing once you get past the front door, they are always excited to be able to help someone after they learn your asking for help and not trying to sell them stuff. It was just awesome. 2017-2020, Paul J. Sorensen 2014-2017, Frdric Jean Babin 2011-2014, Franck A. Poznanski 2008-2011, Don H. Staheli ( Listen to an interview with the Stahelis) 2005-2008, Steven H. Pond 2002-2005, Lynn Bennion 1999-2002, David W. Madsen 1996-1999, Dennis K. Brown (Alex), Rainy, warm in country/cities, very rainy. I learned how to say yes and no before I left. We will in effect be Gods. (Jeffrey), Kebabs, crpes, coquilles St Jacques. New friends. And now, I dont want to ever lose the language ability, because it is a part of my testimony of how the Lord can do miracles with our willingness, desire, efforts, and trust in Him! (Mariah), I packed all the stuff on the list and used almost everything. Its nice and varied! The honeymoon might last a bit longer (a year or two) but if your partner or yourself are not grounded in the gospel, some rough, exciting, sad times are ahead of you. You dont generally need a large trench coat. It just made sense. Photo provided by the Provo Missionary Training Center. Letting truth fill them and watching them achieve their potential. (Bryan), One on one people and group speaking skills. But my experience in the missionary training center was so positive and I was excited, feeling like I was progressing. You will become fluent enough. (Zakarias), Our mission is the highest baptizing mission in Europe (except Cabo Verde), and also happens to be the best in the entire world! (Valan), Dont bring tons of American clothes. I walked around for the first 6 weeks saying that Jesus Christ is my flavor because the words for savior and flavor are really close. Just an inch or two of snow, two months of cold, and only a few weeks of hot. (Douglas), I love their love and pride in their culture and continual quest to perfect their language. Always practice the language. Photo provided by the Provo Missionary Training Center. We were handing out English lesson flyers while knocking on doors in St Dennis. In a revelation to Joseph Smith the Prophet in 1833, the Lord said, "For it shall come . They encourage you to learn French, and become part of their home. Armani isnt exactly for missionaries. There are places in the world where the missionaries, even in their humble circumstances, are wealthier than the people they serve: dont insult them and embarrass yourself by over-dressing. The members are awesome. (Paul), A new perspective on life. Digital text: Gospel Library Online. I love their architecture, their love of flowers and symmetry, their pride and knowledge of their history, their wisdom growing from their mistakes. They gave me a brief introduction to the language, which helped me see what I was in for. Later that night, my trainer asked me Elder, do you remember what you prayed for before we left our apartment? It was amazing to see someones life lifted up and to receive joy through the Gospel. The members are incredible. But it served the purpose of giving me a strong foundation that served me well during the rest of my mission and really the rest of my life. Foofoo. (Doug), Changed every aspect of my life. Preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ to all the people of the world, each in their own language, is a mandate from God. (Stuart), It is humid and moderate. Other miracles were feeling like we should have gotten off as a specific train stop to keep talking to somebody, turning around 10 minutes later, catching a new train, turning back, and still finding that person we wanted to talk to in the mass of people in that little town. (Bryan), A strong testimony of the work and of the church. We cant wait to hear from you! Buy French Language LDS Missionary France or Quebec Mission Tank Top: Shop top fashion brands Tanks & Camis at Amazon.com FREE DELIVERY and Returns possible on eligible purchases Amazon.com: French Language LDS Missionary France or Quebec Mission Tank Top : Clothing, Shoes & Jewelry If I hadnt diligently studied at the missionary training center, I would have struggled more than I did when I first hopped into the mission. The Divine Gift of Forgiveness. My DNA be stolen or something? All over the world, God has called His children to serve in capacities where they can help bring the knowledge of a Savior to the people around them. Be humble, be simple. But after a few steps, we felt it wasnt right. One February day, while living in Arizona, he met the French-speaking sister missionaries when they knocked on his neighbors door. I know that I choose my joy or sadness. I remember how hard I thought I worked at learning Thai in the missionary training center, only to get out to Thailand and be completely humbled at my inability to speak and understand well enough to really communicate with people in the mission field. I love their appreciation and priority for music and the arts. (Merrilyn), Learned a new language. One was particularly tough. (Anonymous), Perseverance. (Kara), Being there when the first stake was formed in Versailles. (Dennis), Planning, prioritizing, organizing meetings and much more. Reunion and Madagascar (heckmy cousin just got home TODAY from madagascar.). (Nicholai), Be more outgoing and less afraid of making mistakes. In the missionary training center, we learned the Tahitian language for six weeks and then tried to learn French for the next six weeks while trying not to forget everything we were taught in Tahitian. Any advice/testimony for pre-missionaries going to Paris? My new trainee stepped on dog poop a couple of times first day. Harvey Armbrust of Placentia, California, served in Germany-Hamburg, 19891991, German speaking. (Matt), Being organized, clean, proper with others, patient, happy, and a leader. (Anonymous), Great food and some very wonderful people who really dont know where to find the truth. :). Deadly gas began filling their apartment, coming from a faulty water heater, according to Fox 2 News. It probably took about two months before I felt more comfortable and fluent in both speaking and understanding. We studied listening to the Spirit and acting on faith. (Scott), St Nazaire Sarcelles Versailles Paris Poitiers Meaux Cergy. (Doug), Tamil riot near La Chapelle that we had to cross in order to get home. Has awesome preparation days. Heres a list of LDS missionary blogs for the ParisMission. Here's a list of current and past Mission Presidents of the Belgium Brussels LDS Mission. (Anna), Lapin la moutarde, fraisiers, quiche, poulet aux arachides Africain. (Elsa), It was very humid, with warm summers and cold winters. Some times to a fault for preaching the gospel as they only want to worry about themselves and dont need anything else . . The only true resource we had was to talk with and ask the Kiribati people, building up your own dictionary of Kiribati words. The missionary training center in Provo opened in the 1970s, and there are several other missionary training centers around the world. Should we turn around? (Jeffrey), A lot haha honestly I learned self-confidence, I was blessed tremendously after my mission. (adsbygoogle=window.adsbygoogle||[]).push({}); !function(f,b,e,v,n,t,s) In general, weather is nice, except it occasionally snows in the winter and there are occasional heat waves in the summer. He has a terrible American accent.. (Mariah), Moderate. (Alex), Living in the neuf-trois in Paris during gang fights(Jacob), We were a little bit late coming home one night. As missionaries, we are helping fulfill that prophecy today. (Jeffrey), Immerse yourself in the work. I loved learning about the French and African cultures I loved the history and sites everywhere I served. (Kara), Spent a year in Rouen.it rained a lot. She asked me if the Book of Mormon could truly change her life for the better. I knew at that point that the Holy Ghost would be with me as I continued to learn Italian and He would be with me when I testified of the gospeleven if I didnt know what to say or how to say it. It was later on that the language we were tested with was the Kurdish language. (Paul), The language is beautiful. In preparing my missionary application, I recall taking a test to test my ability to learn a foreign language. That was always a good spiritual experience. Give Him your time and dont bring your own agenda. (Mariah), I cant count all the blessings. Heres a recent address for the ParisMission. You will learn sacrifice real fast. I love how particular they can be, and how they say hello to every person in the room before they sit down. Photo provided by the Provo Missionary Training Center. (Kale), Dont worry too much about getting Everything before you leave there are markets with skirts and dresses, big shoe stores for when your shoes wear out, their styles are similar, and members and investigators will be happy to direct you on your P day to find more clothes. I saw almost 50 baptisms in my 18 months. When we opened our call letters and read our unique assignment, we never could have imagined the obstacles we would face in the mission field. I know Christ and his mission on earth. It will be the hardest two years of your life but will be two years that will shape you in ways you could only imagine. (Anna), There are two separate cultures in the mission: The city culture and the countryside culture. (Michael), Once, my companion and I were waiting for the mtro (subway) when a homeless man came up to us to ask for money. You dont always know what kind of circumstances a missionary is coming from. I told myself one more time he hits me he is going to to get the Book of Mormon across his head. The people take some getting used to but you will love them in the end. (Alex), Language bonus, people skills, being able to carry on a conversation, cooking. *Send your missionary a gift (mission-specific shirts, ties, Christmas stockings/ornaments, pillowcases, etc.). After retirement, I finished my lengthy French academics and received a bachelors degree in French in 2014. Id never had that happen before. (Jordan), Culture, food, country is beautiful. I was part of the last group of missionaries ever called to the Philippines that didnt get language training. She was getting married the next day and her friends were having fun getting her embarrassed. (Nicholai), The language was really hard for me. Ariel Coronetti de Paiva of Porto Alegre, Brazil, served in the Massachusetts Boston Mission, 20162017, English and creole speaking. (Stuart), In the Spring of 2003 I was serving in Northwest Paris. Charleroi is my idea of Zion. He just wanted to help me learn a little more Norwegian. A very short time after arriving in Spain my companion and I were teaching a young family. Every day I was in Norway I forced myself to learn five new Norwegian words. (Paul), Paris, Vannes, Alencon, La Rochelle, Mantes-la-Jolie, Rennes,and Caen. Some random guy didnt like that and ran up to my companion and I and threw a punch at me but stopped his swing right before it hit my face. Amazing ville. But at the same time, I felt some inner rush to keep hurrying to find her. (Anonymous), I served in an ever changing mission with boundary changes, area closures and much adversity, but I still had a very successful mission serving in 8 different areas, living in 10 different apartments with 15 different companions. We are members of THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF THE BLOODY LAST DAYS. Once learned, they can together create an extraordinary mlange of words! (Bryan), The Bible better and Book of Mormon. (Scott), When I was serving in Belgium, we were walking with our recent convert to his house when he ran in front of us and mooned us hahaha. He said that translated it meant throat support so I thought it made sense. During a migraine episode, we had an appointment scheduled with a non-progressing investigator with major word of wisdom issues. I wasnt sure if I could even make it to his apartment because I was feeling so weak and he lived on the 6th floor. (Chloe), Dont worry about trying to express everything that you want to say. When I received my call to serve in Norway, I quickly discovered that I would be speaking Norwegian, a language about which I knew nothing. Was in 3 missions, all transfers were by airplane. (Drew), Rain in the winter, hot in the summer- especially in Paris. Light skirts for humidity. (Anna), (Sisters) Dont feel like you have to have Everything youll need for 2 years. (Jeffrey), A warm coat for winter that can withstand wind and rain. I used both languages every day of my mission, but it was several months in the field before I was comfortable with any one language, let alone both. (Anna), People always told me it would be SO HARD. The other three came shortly thereafter. We have the coolest mission song ever! (Valan), Not been so nervous and enjoyed it more. Im Brazilian and I was assigned to serve in Portuguese, but I had to learn English because Id probably contact in English and go on exchanges, so I was excited to go to the Provo MTC to practice the language. (Alex), Force yourself to learn the language, talk to people, talk to your companion. (Elsa), Grecs (kbab sandwiches) were a staple of my diet in every area I served in Northern France. Fun night! She said she was hoping to talk with us more, and what a miracle it was that we just appeared! (Mariah), Had a great companionship study in the morning and really felt the Spirit. The more you pray, study and testify, the stronger your testimony will grow. Until this day, I can still interpret my testimony more profoundly when I speak my third language other than any other language I was taught growing up. We dont use cars for transfers. There are a lot of micro climates. (Elsa), A gypsy kid stole my companions cheeseburger at one of the McDonalds on Rue Ste. Home France LDS Missions. (Kara), It was a magical place to serve. In some towns we tracted in, every single home had roses growing so that the whole city smelled of roses. Luckily, we were able to walk away without to much injury. Sister Missionaries Save Dozens from Carbon Monoxide. The food is unforgettable. Likewise, there are so many people out there who try to use the secular history of Mormons as a tool of deceit, confusion, and contention. The French-speaking members in Phoenix have a deep love for the Savior and strong testimonies that God knows each of His children. Cheeses. Here Are Five Ways to Find Answers, Helping Loved Ones Face Questions and Doubts about Faith. When we left the appointment and went down the stairs, the migraine and weakness both returned. It was awesome to see her progress, her maturity in the gospel, and how the Gospel filled her life with joy. 13 Days. (Paul), Some kids were throwing dirt clods at an old man and we told them to stop. We soon discovered that the Arizona Phoenix Mission is home to a large population of French speakers originally from West and Central Africa, Haiti, and other countries around the world. Here are LDS-friendly educational videos aboutFrance. 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